fourex Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 I'm re-building a '76 model 183 Sherpa T 350 that has the bigger "clubfoot" shaped muffler which I was thinking of replacing with an earlier style "banana" style muffler, is this a good or bad idea? Obviously Bultaco put a lot of R & D into those clubfoot's with all those internal chambers and such but, I prefer the aesthetics of the banana muffler as well as it being about 1 kg lighter than the clubfoot (according to inmotion website), but am curious how it effects performance and is it possibly too loud. Anyone experimented with the two on a Sherpa T 350? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feetupfun Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Definitely is louder than the clubfoot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirdabalot Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 I haven't got a clue but you get my vote for daftest subject title. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourex Posted February 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) Yes I know, but that is what the pair of them are commonly known as, I might alter the subject heading. Don't think I can now that I've tried, unfortunately the main page doesn't tell you that it's a "Bultaco" question. Edited February 17, 2018 by fourex 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 I have both original Bultaco silencers at home, the bigger one is definitely quieter and feels as though there is more low end power with this unit. The slimline "banana" silencer sounds good but the performance is less on a 325 Sherpa. Bye, Peter B. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirdabalot Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 44 minutes ago, fourex said: Yes I know, but that is what the pair of them are commonly known as, I might alter the subject heading. Don't think I can now that I've tried, unfortunately the main page doesn't tell you that it's a "Bultaco" question. No don't, it's what got my attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markparrish Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 9 hours ago, fourex said: Yes I know, but that is what the pair of them are commonly known as, I might alter the subject heading. Don't think I can now that I've tried, unfortunately the main page doesn't tell you that it's a "Bultaco" question. no, definitely not! It's perfect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullylover Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 I can remember reading a post on here ages ago that said that the Banana silencer made more power and it is a lot lighter. The new WES clubfoot ones are getting very good reviews though. Or just chop your clubfoot open and change the internals to match another post in here somewhere. Good luck Rod! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section swept Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 On 17/02/2018 at 6:48 AM, sirdabalot said: I haven't got a clue but you get my vote for daftest subject title. Well my Sherpa came with a banana ( not battered or bruised) but I suspect that the club foot is better performance wise as Bultaco progressed to that style. The system with the largest volume is usually better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feetupfun Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 8 hours ago, section swept said: Well my Sherpa came with a banana ( not battered or bruised) but I suspect that the club foot is better performance wise as Bultaco progressed to that style. The system with the largest volume is usually better. At the time they developed the bigfoot, there was a big push to make dirt bikes quieter and it wasn't just Bultaco who developed quiet exhaust systems. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrb505 Posted February 20, 2018 Report Share Posted February 20, 2018 Wasn’t being a spark arrester the only reason the club foot came about, so they could be sold in the US. I think the banana performs better let alone being half the weight 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted February 20, 2018 Report Share Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) Agreed. Ive changed mine to straight through club foot as hate the look of the wes. Vazquez changes the clubfoot internals too, so it cant be that good or else he wouldnt bother to strip it and remove baffles. Edited February 21, 2018 by nigel dabster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted February 20, 2018 Report Share Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, nigel dabster said: Agreed. Ive changed mine to straight through club foot as hate the look of the wes. Vazquez changes the clubfoot internals too so it cant be good What did Jose ever do to you ? Albert Camus — 'People hasten to judge in order not to be judged themselves.' Edited February 20, 2018 by b40rt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschrauber Posted February 20, 2018 Report Share Posted February 20, 2018 I don't think the Banana style exhaust is better then the clubfoot style and to me there are two reason. The first is very obvious the clubfoot offers better sound reduction so is quiter. The second is obvious too, the clubfoot offers more througput or flow rate as the diameter of the two tubes are bigger then the one at the banana type. Second the Clubfoot offers more general back pressure in the exhaust system through the mace of voids, tubes and "windows" which allows a mild rear loading effect to the charge of air gasoline mixture which was pushed out of the cylinder. The Banana style exhaust was an interims solution and invented after the tobacco pouch style rear muffler which did not show any good effect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 13 hours ago, b40rt said: What did Jose ever do to you ? Albert Camus — 'People hasten to judge in order not to be judged themselves.' youve mis read it im saying the clubfoot isnt any good which vazquez agrees with because he changes it. Get off that high horse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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