baldilocks Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Section design needs a new direction. Riders have now mastered the huge step so it's become 0 or 5/ injury at x trial level. Easier outdoors to have more natural sections but indoors it's quite difficult..but indoor mx and enduro manage to import tonnes of earth to make a track. So why can't an indoor trial include more natural stuff ? Playing the game to raga and bou's strengths isn't the answer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Indoor mud - that’s the answer . need to bring back it’s a knockout elastic rope and fairy liguid on plastic sheets . lets see bou and raga hop there way out of that while sliding backwards with an elastic band tied to their waste and some northern commentator laughing more than they can speak . bring it on!! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) On 2/23/2018 at 1:13 PM, oni nou said: Impressive....I usually end up crashing that heavily just riding along at 5 mph in a flat field after running over a piece of stone the size of a bar of soap. I was there and watched that for real - looked nasty at the time . as a btc clerk of course it’s a fine line between taking marks and hurting the top boys. The move to no stop and no minders has reduced the severity of section I have to put on. Spectators may think it’s not as exciting but has certainly helped me sleep at night. Edited March 5, 2018 by jimmyl spelling 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 32 minutes ago, jimmyl said: Indoor mud - that’s the answer . need to bring back it’s a knockout elastic rope and fairy liguid on plastic sheets . lets see bou and raga hop there way out of that while sliding backwards with an elastic band tied to their waste and some northern commentator laughing more than they can speak . bring it on!! Don't forget the forgettable royal family !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, b40rt said: Don't forget the forgettable royal family !! Sorry I forgot !!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadof2 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Unfortunately this was bound to happen. The issue of ever steeper, more dangerous sections to challenge improved bike and rider ability has been debated for many many years. I can remember Sammy Miller advocating a reduction of rear tyre size from 4.00 to 3.50 and that was before the michelin radial era. Bou will almost certainly recover physically, but whether he recovers mentally and regains his confidence 100% is questionable. It seems unlikely that organisers will want to reduce the spectacle of x trials. Therefore the compulsory wearing padded suits needs to be considered but even these are ineffective in preventing knee injuries such as those suffered by Michael Brown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 8 hours ago, dadof2 said: Unfortunately this was bound to happen. The issue of ever steeper, more dangerous sections to challenge improved bike and rider ability has been debated for many many years. I can remember Sammy Miller advocating a reduction of rear tyre size from 4.00 to 3.50 and that was before the michelin radial era. Bou will almost certainly recover physically, but whether he recovers mentally and regains his confidence 100% is questionable. It seems unlikely that organisers will want to reduce the spectacle of x trials. Therefore the compulsory wearing padded suits needs to be considered but even these are ineffective in preventing knee injuries such as those suffered by Michael Brown. yes but brown hurt his knee outdoors. Bou will be back, he wont worry about this youre wrong. Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 23 minutes ago, nigel dabster said: yes but brown hurt his knee outdoors. Bou will be back, he wont worry about this youre wrong. Again. Second time Micheal brown did his knees in ssdt Park ferme I recall - I guess agrivated original injury 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 No stop just hasn't worked for me it's a farce. But can sections be designed in such a way that the rider doesn't have the opportunity or is at a disadvantage if they stop to set up / prepare for the next jump ? Applying a time limit and making the sections longer just led to the better riders getting further ahead. Watching Bou at the Scottish round he could land his wheels right first time whereas most others needed two or three hops to get the position they needed. Over the course of a section they just ran out of time. Applying time limits and the sump rule to current indoor sections is just dangerous. We don't want it's a knockout but some earth getting dragged onto sections would reduce grip and give 1st rider an advantage instead of hopping from one dry rock to the next ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Hmmm. Received this yesterday from the FIM: "Despite the best efforts of 2Play, the promoter of the FIM X-Trial World Championship, we hereby announce that the event originally scheduled to take place in Seville, Spain on 8 March has been cancelled. The FIM and 2Play are looking for a replacement venue that will be communicated as soon as possible." A replacement round has been added to the calendar as a "To Be Advised", but at the end of the season. I smell a "Lets give Toni time to recover" rat 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Fuji last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Arguably the best trials rider of all time has just broke his back. Time for change ? Farre's crash last night was yet another lucky escape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbofurball Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 28 minutes ago, baldilocks said: Arguably the best trials rider of all time has just broke his back. Time for change ? Farre's crash last night was yet another lucky escape Like group B rallying and Formula 1, perhaps it's time for changes to be made to the bikes themselves to improve safety ... but what could change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyc21 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 22 hours ago, andy said: Hmmm. Received this yesterday from the FIM: "Despite the best efforts of 2Play, the promoter of the FIM X-Trial World Championship, we hereby announce that the event originally scheduled to take place in Seville, Spain on 8 March has been cancelled. The FIM and 2Play are looking for a replacement venue that will be communicated as soon as possible." A replacement round has been added to the calendar as a "To Be Advised", but at the end of the season. I smell a "Lets give Toni time to recover" rat my guess is it's a ticket sales thing... it shouldn't be, but I wouldn't be surprised if thats it. I know I would still go if I was nearby and Toni couldn't. Would be a bit bummed but still. I hope that's it at least. But no matter what, I hope Toni heals up quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 im sure if sheffield can make it work with a 3/4 full stadium im sure it would in sevilla so i doubt its ticket sales. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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