dan williams Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 OK so a few things I've seen on the 2018 make me fairly certain we'll be seeing significant changes to the 2019. I've seen what appears to be much larger electrical capacity on the stator with more coils and a larger regulator/rectifier. An additional vent (pressure tube?) on the fuel filler. A security screw on the intake manifold. Pushing of electrics (CDI, ignition coil, regulator) away from the center of the frame towards outer parts of the bike. So let's speculate, Fuel injection, all the cool kids are doing it. A fuel pump, injection body and ECU need space and power to work. A battery is necessary to make it work first kick. Electric start? Hey if we throw a Li-ion battery in for the fuel injection why not make it a bit bigger and start a revolution? Starter motors are a lot smaller and lighter than they used to be. Diaphragm clutch, They don't work better than a properly setup spring clutch but they are cheaper to manufacture and they are physically thinner than coil springs. I would like to see someone build a clutch with a wave spring just because nobody's tried it yet. ...and on the wish list, A rear brake that has a bleeder on top of the master cylinder. Now.......................Discuss! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasserguy Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 New stickers....... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan williams Posted March 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 47 minutes ago, gasserguy said: New stickers....... That's "Bold new graphics" to you sir. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axulsuv Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 Dan; I've seen a wave spring clutch somewhere in the past .... I'm thinking it was a dry clutch on some type of implement or machine tool ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlos Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 I'll settle for a shorter rear fender without the spear on the end made out of a less brittle plastic, and new stickers! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heffergm Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 I think most of that stuff was there on the 2017's as well, as I remember speculating about FI on the 2018's... which obviously didn't happen. But hey, there's always next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan williams Posted March 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Beta moves in mysterios ways. I can tell you from experience product introductions always take longer than expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowbrow Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 If Beta does use fuel injection on its 2T bikes it will be interesting to see if it benefits from collaboration with KTM to use injectors that fuel direct into the transfer ports as opposed to what KTM dismisses as the 'electronic carburettor' fuel injection systems used by Ossa and Vertigo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Ktm 2t all have carbs,all 4t have FI.,wonder why? Would Beta know something that KTM don't? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heffergm Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, huski said: Ktm 2t all have carbs,all 4t have FI.,wonder why? Would Beta know something that KTM don't? http://www.ktm.com/news/int/ktm-unveils-worlds-first-2-stroke-fuel-injection-enduro-machines/ https://www.dirtrider.com/2018-ktm-250-xc-w-tpi-review Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Fair enough,didn't know about the 2018 models Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicktop Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 I'd like to see them fit a gallon of fuel in the frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotus54 Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 7 hours ago, lowbrow said: If Beta does use fuel injection on its 2T bikes it will be interesting to see if it benefits from collaboration with KTM to use injectors that fuel direct into the transfer ports as opposed to what KTM dismisses as the 'electronic carburettor' fuel injection systems used by Ossa and Vertigo. The OSSA injector goes directly into the crankcase- right at the rear transfer port. Not really that much different Than the KTM (only one injector of course), it is NOT throttle body injection. I do not know how the Vertigo is setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowbrow Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 15 hours ago, lotus54 said: The OSSA injector goes directly into the crankcase- right at the rear transfer port. Not really that much different Than the KTM (only one injector of course), it is NOT throttle body injection. I do not know how the Vertigo is setup. That's interesting and something I didn't know. I think it will only take another trials manufacturer (or two) to use FI and the others will follow suit much as they did with the introduction of monoshock suspension and water cooling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotus54 Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) I had found the FI very, very reliable with quite minimal maintenance required. I like it. Software access was easy (of course now that OSSA is not in business, finding the interface now is difficult, but setup was super easy) But I certainly understand those not wanting to get into the FI world. The CV carb on my 300 4T works pretty well, but I wonder how it would be with FI similar to the Montesa (another bike I seriously looked into buying). just my thoughts- what do I know? Edited March 9, 2018 by lotus54 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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