miner Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) As above.... moved house at the weekend so had the fun part of riding the bikes from villa to villa, GG as sat for couple of weeks after it was last used and fired up ok (as well as GG do!) after a couple of kicks... when it started running it was making squeaking noises however. Engine appeared to be running fine, no issues.... a bit concerned about the noise though. Seemed to be coming from low down, maybe the water pump? Cleared after a few minutes... will kick it over and try and get a video to check myself again. Last time it was out I pressure washed it (exhaust bung in) and run it afterwards till the float bowl was empty. Common issue? Or something sinister? Edited April 13, 2018 by miner Title Change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miner Posted April 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 So the plot thickens a bit here..... sounds more like the engine.... have a look and let me know your thoughts: GG Squeaking 1 GG Squeaking 2 GG Squeaking 3 Just about to start stripping to replace the chain guard.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miner Posted April 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Worth whipping the barrel off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richt Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Take the plug out so it's easier to turn the motor by hand. The squeak is just as the motor comes to a stop so rotate it slowly an listen carefully. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miner Posted April 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Got full top end gasket kit just in case..... will do it and report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2w Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Worth checking the airbox to make certain that a field mouse didn't decide to have a litter in there while your bike was parked. Yes, it has happened to me (but on a DR600)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Have you had the clutch cover off recently? It sounds like the fingers scratching on the cases to me. The clutch fingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heffergm Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 I must be deaf because I don't hear anything I'd refer to as a squeak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 It happened right when it was shut down. It could be alot of things. Rings, bad main bearing. I suggested starting with the clutch due to the noise before the squeak. (And you have to do this in steps) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miner Posted April 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Not had the clutch cover off since I bought it.... only things I can think of are: - Air boot came off carb not long after I got it... sucked in a lot of dust which I saw on the plug. After a clean up it’s run fine since. Over 1yr. - Been using 60:1 premix instead of 50:1 last few rides.... just been using leftover fuel from mixing up for the 300 KTM Bike is currently and engine and a frame just now anyway.... can see it in bits this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heffergm Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 10 hours ago, lineaway said: It happened right when it was shut down. It could be alot of things. Rings, bad main bearing. I suggested starting with the clutch due to the noise before the squeak. (And you have to do this in steps) Serves me right for not watching the final 0.8 seconds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miner Posted April 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Well I think I’ve found it and short of pulling the clutch cover off to discount that hypothesis I’m a bit worried now about the big ends.... Tried some oil directly into the plug hole and intake to the crank bearing.... definitely still there and coincides with top and bottom parts of the stroke. Barrel looks ok... crown fairly black, deffo rich, plug black/fouled, rings - blowbye on the first ring, second ring ok. What’s the recommendations now? Can you replace the main bearings and the rings? Or is this now a full top and bottom end job? Just bought a Lectron for my 300 EXC and a couple of hundred in parts for all the KTMs (inc Mrs bike)... if this gets expensive she could become stabby! Help!?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Full rebuild. Wonder if the bearings are spinning in the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miner Posted April 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Was worried that was the case.... dunno.... not sure but one way to find out.... ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richt Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Squeaking at the same crank position and sounds like hard rubbing metal to metal, Have you got the spark plug out so you can rule out any compression force an just be spinning the crankshaft? and take force off the big end bearing see if the sound changes position or tone. Some rust on the crank flanges and could be rubbing on the crank cases though I cant see any rubbing marks on the crank.. Main bearings are lubed by the gear oil so if you have changed oil regularly I would lean towards the con rod bearings. But unfortunately I think this is going to be a full strip down. You said the air filter could have let in dust/debris, this would get into the crankcase and big/little end bearings. A clump of grit tightly lodged in somewhere could make this type of noise. Hopefully this could help direct you to the cause. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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