animal1806 Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 So an update on the bike. I was lucky enough to have another ago on the Mont this weekend in the wet. Now the question is what is the knack on riding in the wet on a Mont? I found it has loads of power and torque but I just couldn't get grip where on my 12 year Beta 2t I would have flown up. Now i have to admit I was trying to ride it like a 2t and have read that you need to change your riding style on 4t but it has thrown a spanner in the works as now i don't know if I should get a Mont and take the time to get used to it or stick with a 2t. I would love to hear peoples opinions on both to try and help with my decision as i am now at a totally loss on which way to go. Thanks everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 13 hours ago, animal1806 said: So an update on the bike. I was lucky enough to have another ago on the Mont this weekend in the wet. Now the question is what is the knack on riding in the wet on a Mont? I found it has loads of power and torque but I just couldn't get grip where on my 12 year Beta 2t I would have flown up. Now i have to admit I was trying to ride it like a 2t and have read that you need to change your riding style on 4t but it has thrown a spanner in the works as now i don't know if I should get a Mont and take the time to get used to it or stick with a 2t. I would love to hear peoples opinions on both to try and help with my decision as i am now at a totally loss on which way to go. Thanks everyone. So, you've found the 4RT's achilles heel...............harder to find grip in wet or muddy conditions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrsunt Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Rev it, weight over the back, shut off, grip, wheelie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyc21 Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 On 5/17/2018 at 3:17 PM, johnnyboxer said: So, you've found the 4RT's achilles heel...............harder to find grip in wet or muddy conditions Again, I disagree... it's riding style and preference in my experience. My 2 cents... Everyone I have known who tries a 4RT (usually mine) coming from a 2T background has found much the same as you have that it's a different riding style so has more grip in one condition and less in others, usually less in the wet moss and mud. Everyone I know who has started on a 4RT has a similar experience when going to 2T. A friend of mine who rides a 4RT and myself have both had more trouble in the wet moss and mud when on a 2T. This is just my friend and I's experience and the experience of others who have tried my Montesa so is a small sample. So could I be mistaken? Sure. Yet it at least would indicate it might be more an how and not a what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted May 19, 2018 Report Share Posted May 19, 2018 On 11/05/2018 at 12:22 PM, compactpete said: I've an 09 Gas Gas 250 which I am thinking of changing. I have recently been lucky to get to try a 2018 Beta 300 ss, a 2018 Sherco 250 factory, a 2017 Sherco 250 and a 2017 Montesa 4rt. I'm a novice and all felt superior to my Gas Gas but my favourite was the 4rt (closely followed by the Beta) the motor is just stunning and I was immediately able to tackle stuff I struggle with on my Gas Gas. I've read lots about a so called lack of grip but I thought the grip was incredible, even on the very greasy hills. Maybe it just suits my riding style? try a brand new gas gas to your bike is ten years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted May 19, 2018 Report Share Posted May 19, 2018 7 hours ago, jonnyc21 said: Again, I disagree... it's riding style and preference in my experience. My 2 cents... Everyone I have known who tries a 4RT (usually mine) coming from a 2T background has found much the same as you have that it's a different riding style so has more grip in one condition and less in others, usually less in the wet moss and mud. Everyone I know who has started on a 4RT has a similar experience when going to 2T. A friend of mine who rides a 4RT and myself have both had more trouble in the wet moss and mud when on a 2T. This is just my friend and I's experience and the experience of others who have tried my Montesa so is a small sample. So could I be mistaken? Sure. Yet it at least would indicate it might be more an how and not a what. which would be fine if they were consistent but i gave up after 2 years as some conditions just caught me out every trial, but it was always a surprise. A mont is great when youre riding it but if you get in trouble it seems to suck you into holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted May 19, 2018 Report Share Posted May 19, 2018 24 minutes ago, nigel dabster said: which would be fine if they were consistent but i gave up after 2 years as some conditions just caught me out every trial, but it was always a surprise. A mont is great when youre riding it but if you get in trouble it seems to suck you into holes. Yep - watching the same section at SSDT- you see the 4rt riders (experienced ones) getting hung up on stuff and drop into holes that all the 2t riders make short work of Watch 100 riders through a section and see which bikes drop less marks It ain't most 4rt riders in my observations Great bikes - but more riders at 2t mounted 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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