walz Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 I am really excited for my bike to arrive next week! Just trying to figure out the setup work before I ride. Do most trials riders set race sag or just 15-25mm static sag? Set race sag at about 30% of travel? Any specific tips for setting up the 17 with Reiger shock? I am bigger, have the stiffer springs and will ride in advanced class at the next meet if that makes any difference in your recommendation. Thank you for your time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inchhigh Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 you can get advice for a gasser or a sherco , there is not alot around for the trs . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breagh Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 Hi Walz questions a bit above my pay grade. Thing I would say and you probably know this the suspension will soften off considerably after a few hours use so I wouldn't rush to set up right away. What I do know is that riders set ups vary so going by the book if there is one might not suit you. As an old guy I set up my bikes really soft as I'm not exactly hitting steps flat out in 3rd and really all I want is the bike to grip. As I say I don't think it's an exact science happy fiddling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walz Posted July 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 1 minute ago, breagh said: Hi Walz questions a bit above my pay grade. Thing I would say and you probably know this the suspension will soften off considerably after a few hours use so I wouldn't rush to set up right away. What I do know is that riders set ups vary so going by the book if there is one might not suit you. As an old guy I set up my bikes really soft as I'm not exactly hitting steps flat out in 3rd and really all I want is the bike to grip. As I say I don't think it's an exact science happy fiddling. Fair enough. Nothing in the manual on sag and maybe that's intentional. Hard to imagine not having a good baseline like any moto, trail or even mountain bike! I guess with trials varying wildly in technique this would make sense. Maybe riders with extraordinary balance could use more stored energy from the shock while us mortals may be hindered. Thank you for the reply and I'll bring my tools with me to the rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walz Posted July 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 34 minutes ago, inchhigh said: you can get advice for a gasser or a sherco , there is not alot around for the trs . Ok, my average on research for those bikes is 30 static, 100mm race sag (rider weight). I'll use that for a starting point unless any TRS experts get a chance to chime in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 I'd always set my rear suspension up with sag previously but you don't need to do this with the Reiger shock on the RR. Out of the box they don't have sag, neither does the vertigo with the same shock. It doesn't top out like you would expect and provides greater lift. I presume something is different in terms of damping compared to other shocks I have used. Its very good, if you need a heavier spring for your weight they are available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 The bike works well, stock out of the box. You never said how big you are. The rear shock is fairly soft. You might crank it up two turns if you are 220 plus. Other wise the suspension needs to break in. One or two rides is not enough. The bikes works very well , so just enjoy riding it for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walz Posted July 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, baldilocks said: you don't need to do this with the Reiger shock on the RR. Out of the box they don't have sag, Its very good, if you need a heavier spring for your weight they are available. Well Geez, that's the first I've heard of. Now I'd really like to hear specific setup procedure. I have the 80 spring weight and am 230. Thanks Edited July 13, 2018 by walz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walz Posted July 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, oni nou said: Is specific set up procedure not in the REIGER TRS manual on the TRS websites The first thing I did is read through the TRS manual on that site and the Reiger pamphlet on that site. Nothing about sag in there. The gas gas info you supplied on preload was helpful. Thanks Edited July 13, 2018 by walz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 Hopefully you did not get heavier fromt springs , as stock they work very good. The biggest thing on a trials bike is the front and rear need to work together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taff_d Posted July 14, 2018 Report Share Posted July 14, 2018 45mm front rider sag. 80-85mm rear rider sag. Numbers given to me by a then Ohlins technician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walz Posted July 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2018 Thanks everyone for the input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walz Posted July 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 So much different info but here is the answer from what I believe to be the horse's mouth. Stew at Jacks Cycles impresses the heck out of me and here is his answer from the words of Raga regarding the TRS/Reiger: 10mm pre-load on the rear spring with a tolerance of +/-3mm. Any more and get a new spring. All brands even with the Reiger have different pre-load base settings. I matched the front springs to the rear (heavier both ends) and it feels balanced. This should yield zero static sag. Ride on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) And now you need to ride for a month to break them in and then actually start setting up the suspension. We should have a new rear spring by the end of the week for my son's new 300rr. We are betting the front will be fine. Time will tell. Good luck on your new bike. My son rode his in some large rocks yesterday and just loves it. By the way setting a bike up to Raga's settings will do you no good as he rides with different forks and rear shock. Stew is a good guy though. Edited July 17, 2018 by lineaway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 I'm not really sure what he means ? Are you saying take all the sag out of the shock and then wind the spring down another 10mm ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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