normy Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 Italian round 1st lets see how Toby does this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhuskys Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 Grattarola came down from TrialGP and is staying to defend his Championship. Green comes in as 125 Champ, but if Gandola's experience is a guide, it's going to be a learning year for Billy. Martyn and Marcelli's chance again to rise to the top for the Championship and I'm guessing for Fuji's spot on Team HRC, when he decides to retire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neils on wheels Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 I see the latest news is that Toby is staying in Trial2 for 2019, on a factory Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, neils on wheels said: I see the latest news is that Toby is staying in Trial2 for 2019, on a factory Beta. That is a shame, as he was really bossing the 4T MontesaHonda Can't blame him for taking a factory ride though, maybe Honda have definitely missed a trick Edited November 1, 2018 by johnnyboxer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neils on wheels Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 Indeed, it will be interesting to see if Toby can be Trial2 champion on a 250 2T against the 300 4T Monts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 hour ago, neils on wheels said: Indeed, it will be interesting to see if Toby can be Trial2 champion on a 250 2T against the 300 4T Monts Unless he rides the Beta 300 4T 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heffergm Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 Why not! Jan Peters goes pretty well on it. Maybe Beta will use it as a chance to promote the 4 stroke, maybe sling a few custom parts at it. I doubt it, but it would be neat to see a 4 stroke out there other than a Montesa. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhuskys Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Not shocked that he would go for a full Factory Beta ride, from the RG Trial support team. As I mentioned above, Marcelli or Martyn rising up to eventually fill Fuji's shoes.... I'm guessing a Spanish rider is looking better than a Brit, to Repsol Honda? Toby a good fit with Beta, as Dibs is there and he will get super support in the BTC and other home events from John Lampkin/Beta UK. You never Beta might surprise us with Toby on a 300 4T? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted November 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Toby is the best prospect for a while, but it smacks of lack of ambition to stay trial 2, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted November 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 5 hours ago, nhuskys said: Not shocked that he would go for a full Factory Beta ride, from the RG Trial support team. As I mentioned above, Marcelli or Martyn rising up to eventually fill Fuji's shoes.... I'm guessing a Spanish rider is looking better than a Brit, to Repsol Honda? Toby a good fit with Beta, as Dibs is there and he will get super support in the BTC and other home events from John Lampkin/Beta UK. You never Beta might surprise us with Toby on a 300 4T? full factory isnt RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section swept Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 On 26/09/2018 at 10:41 PM, oni nou said: I agree but the rules are all over the place... Lineway knows what you can and cannot do, he has observed at World trials in the USA and that video that the FIM had made to show what was acceptable and what was not is out of date......the problem is that they still refer to the rules as non stop and that is clearly not the case, it needs to be updated to non stop with stop allowed ....their interpretation of the word stop is different to a dictionary definition so it is pointless trying to understand the marking system .When a bike can have 1 wheel stopped yet the other can be considered to be making progress its time to enjoy the sheer madness of it all and accept that the results mean nothing. By that rule then if a competitor locks either the front or rear wheel they have officially by the rules ...stopped...even though the machine is still moving. ????♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heffergm Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, nigel dabster said: Toby is the best prospect for a while, but it smacks of lack of ambition to stay trial 2, sorry. I think it's brilliant. He gets a factory ride, he aims to win the title this time around (presumably on a 2t), and he lets Bou, Raga, Dabill, etc get a year closer to retirement before he moves to GP. Since he looks about 14 years old to me, I'm guessing he's still not even 20. There's zero reason to rush, given that it's basically guaranteed that within the next 4 years Raga and Fuji will both have retired, and Bou will be nearing the end of his career. It'll leave a big gap, and coming off a T2 title and a couple journeymen years in GP I think he'll have timed things perfectly. Edited November 2, 2018 by heffergm 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neils on wheels Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 2 hours ago, nigel dabster said: Toby is the best prospect for a while, but it smacks of lack of ambition to stay trial 2, sorry. I agree, but I wonder how much is down to Beta wanting a good showing in the Trial2 championship? He has a two year deal, so I imagine the plan will be to move up to TrialGP in 2020. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhuskys Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 4 hours ago, nigel dabster said: full factory isnt RG Maybe my American English failed me? In Yank talk.... Full Factory Team implies riding for the actual Manufacturer's team, not a private team which may receive some consideration and support from the manufacturer. Rudy Geiser's RG Trial is a private team running Honda/Montesa bikes and pretty sure they have some official Honda support. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oni nou Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) ........................ Edited November 2, 2018 by oni nou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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