dmc2028372 Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 Hi. Anyone else experienced problems with the front brake? My 18 Factory evo has a ***** brake. It almost takes a few fingers pull to lock the wheel. It feels slightly spongy but not serious. It just seems like the pads aren’t biting at all. A mate of mine said the original pads from new are too harder compound. Any ideas/recommendations? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 Oni nou is correct. You have to figure out if it is just crap pads and air which it could be. The M/C are not as great as they think they are. My `16 was crap, I fought it for about 6 months. Finally replaced the whole system with AJP. Just last week I went to a Nissin M/C. So far it is the best yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcman56 Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 Who sells the AJP replacement system? Where do you get a Nissin M/C? I find that the Beta rear brakes are weak but have found nothing that would be a fairly easy replacement.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 I found used parts. A good dealer can find them too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 On the factory 19 they say they use braktec equipment as an upgrade, maybe look them up? Unless they are already on the 18's anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 The bratec is the problem on some. My sons TRRS the braktechs are awesome. But my whole Braktech system sits in my trailor as spare parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the dabster Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 6 hours ago, dmc2028372 said: Hi. Anyone else experienced problems with the front brake? My 18 Factory evo has a ***** brake. It almost takes a few fingers pull to lock the wheel. It feels slightly spongy but not serious. It just seems like the pads aren’t biting at all. A mate of mine said the original pads from new are too harder compound. Any ideas/recommendations? Thanks Definite problem with the components on your bike, I owned a 15 and 17 factory beta and remember the front brake was good and the rear as someone suggested was weak. If the pads get contaminated in any way that causes glazing then throw them away and start again. There is no way you should require two fingers or to exert the pressures you infer. I believe the 19 factory rear brake is improved from the previous years as is the front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS Fan Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) Hi Most of above advice is good, but I would not recommend cold water on a hot disc - it may warp the disc. assuming disc is not warped and a problem, better to boil pads in a pan of water with washing up liquid (don't use the wives best pan!) If it could be just air in the system, a surprisingly good solution that seems to work more times than not is to do what the MX boys do. With the bike on a stand, ensuring the master cylinder is higher than the highest point of the brake hose, pull the brake on and tie with string / cable tie and leave overnight. Seems to have a good effect on mine, if calliper has been off and brake feels spongy. Some people swear by tapping the hose with a spanner - supposedly to move any air. Edited February 5, 2019 by TRS Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 I would remove the rear caliper and set it as low as possible leaving no high points push the pistons out with the bake brake then force them back in to push air out the caliper, leave it a day ,then back bleed the caliper pushing air and old fluid up into the resevoir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 hours ago, TRS Fan said: Hi Most of above advice is good, but I would not recommend cold water on a hot disc - it may warp the disc. assuming disc is not warped and a problem, better to boil pads in a pan of water with washing up liquid (don't use the wives best pan!) If it could be just air in the system, a surprisingly good solution that seems to work more times than not is to do what the MX boys do. With the bike on a stand, ensuring the master cylinder is higher than the highest point of the brake hose, pull the brake on and tie with string / cable tie and leave overnight. Seems to have a good effect on mine, if calliper has been off and brake feels spongy. Some people swear by tapping the hose with a spanner - supposedly to move any air. I have seen the water trick done hundreds of times with no problems. First time I ever saw it done was by a world champion. Tying up the brakes is for air bubbles. The water trick is for pads and rotors. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirdabalot Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 Anybody explain how the cold water trick works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, sirdabalot said: Anybody explain how the cold water trick works? Steam clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 2 hours ago, sirdabalot said: Anybody explain how the cold water trick works? You ride around for a few minutes heating up the disc and pads and throw a small bucket of water on same. You should have great brakes instantly or you have a real problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirdabalot Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 Ta. But wondered how it works, not how to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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