alan bechard Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 It would probably help if you had put your location in your profile, and folks assumed, as I did as well, when you posted here that you were an American. Thanks for answering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich lin Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 (edited) Gee, I thought North Yorkshire should be part of the USA? Alan, why are you only bringing Ringo over for a soft drink? You have the best breakfast anywhere, why not have him over for some bacon and eggs? Edited January 20, 2006 by Mich Lin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
city trials Posted January 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 (edited) We really got off topic here. This thread was a way to point out observed trials doesn't even pay well enough for the only USA trials publisher to support himself with-out having to freelance for another publication, in another discipline. If Shan's eggs were all in the trials comp basket, Shan would have no chicks to pay the bills. When it comes to calling our riders professional, we are only fooling ourselves. I started this thread as pure sarcasm. Edited January 20, 2006 by City Trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no jive Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Boy do I feel stupid City Trials. We all fell for that one really hard. Oh my gosh I am so embarrassed. But I still have to say congrats to Shan. Speaking of going off track City Trials. I remember Ringo asking why you Dissed Geoff at the endurocross. Your only real response was about world peace. So did you get dragged out by your ear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich lin Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Jive, just because your always good for a rise! Here goes in defence of City. Citytrials was referring to the world rider interviews here, the question was would you prefer world peace or personel success at winning the world championship. They all chose winning over world peace. This is interesting. Maybe that was my downfall in trials and Geoff's? I would answer that question world peace! For example when I had Bernie on the ropes in 78 and the 4th US title was my sights if only I stood my ground. I gave Bernie the parts needed to fix his bike and refused to protest his outside assistance. Which allowed him to continue, win his first national title, then win the world title in 79. I went home afterwards and remained a privateer forevermore. A year later, when I needed a piston to do the 1980 Championship, he refused to give me his spare! That's why he was a winner and I was not! He took care of # ONE. Now Geoff is a lot like me, he just dosn't have the killer instincts that he needs to beat the world's best. Yet I believe he has the talent and would be world champion if he had the drive. Geoff is a big fish in a small pond. He dose not have the fight to bring the US riders up to a world level. Part of why our riders are not compeditive in world rounds is Geoff! He sets low expectations for our pro class, often he won't even enter the US world round. In his defence he's a good businessman! He has a good business doing his nationwide live show at tractor pulls, monster truck events and as a sideshow at Supercross and AMA nationals. He has realized young that he dosn't want to be world champion and simply wants to ride and make money doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no jive Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Lane it is nice to see you stand up for Craig again. My response was to his mean spirited post in which he edited the Hell out of 20 minutes later and while I was writing my post. It basically insulted everyone for writing a comment. I do not remember word for word what he wrote. Sorry I did not see any sarcasim in his first post. I guess in his last post Craig saw what he wrote and changed it. Or someone grabbed him by the ear and had him change it. I do not know Craig or have ever met him. Just did not like what he posted and obviously he did not like it either. Still dont get your World Peace comment. I guess I did not read that article. But I have to say it was nice to hear that Bernie Story Again and again and again. Hope to see you and your team at the Nationals. And in June come ride the British American Cup in Santa Cruz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich lin Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 darn Clive, I was hoping to catch you up but you didn't fall for it. You did miss the point of my post. I didn't see Craig's post before it was edited so I cannot comment. Here is what I see going on between you two. You two are in interesting positions, you belong to team Webb and he's part of team Smage. I have no dog in this fight, I'm simply on the sidelines watching the face off. These two teams will fight it out in the very near future providing all of us great entertainment. Simply the toughest team will win, who will it be? Now I've never told the story about Bernie not selling me the piston I needed for the 1980 season! I was simply bringing up the story as an example of his will to win. A will not seen in this generation of American riders and one that they will need to develope to be on par with the Europeans. Even after me giving him the title in 1978, Bernie was unable to put himself at any sort of disadvantage, which is the sign of a true winner. I realized then and there if the shoe had been on the other foot. Meaning if my bike had broken insted of his, he would never have given me the parts to finsih the trial, that's the point of that story. I've never mentioned this before, I've only told the first part of the story. Now the question is will these lessons be learned by our best riders? Webb, Smage or any other American hoping to be a world round contenders.They will have to learn this win at all costs attitude, because that's what they will face. Yes it makes riding at the top levels no fun but is playing Pro football fun? As for coming and riding with you guys, I've not ridden but once since I was told I could not compete at the nationals. I'm done, I really have no desire to ride anymore, it was snuffed out. Before I recieved the phone call from the NATC I was on the bike everyday and in the gym all the time. I had a great battle plan for the last season and this coming season but after having the rug pulled out from under me I simply lost all interest in riding this sport. Gee I've seen this happen to at least a half dozen, maybe a dozen US Pro riders since I came back to this sport. Simply if people are not allowed to dream and aim high, they never become extraordinary. The differnce between ordinary and extraordinary is simply a little extra put in front of ordinary. I don't want to be disrespectful to you Clive or anybody else but I don't really expect a lot of people to understand this concept. If they don't fine, yet the few that do will become EXTRAordinary! Now will it be Smage or Webb who become EXTRAORDINARY? Which one will it be? Will it be World Peace or winning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the artist formerly known as ish Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 He he, tha's certainly extraordinary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich lin Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Yes, yes, the team that energizes this information will indeed be EXTRAordinary. Will it be Smage or Webb? Taking bets Ishy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perce Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Gee, I thought North Yorkshire should be part of the USA? Pity it isn't, eh? You'd then have at least 20 riders better than anyone that the USA have currently got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian r Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Would that be sheep riders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perce Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Would that be sheep riders? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Come to think of it there are probably 20 sheep in Yorkshire that could beat anyone from the USA right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
city trials Posted January 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Come to think of it there are probably 20 sheep in Yorkshire that could beat anyone from the USA right now. Don't tell Bingo that, he will be following the AMA/NATC series like a Grateful Dead Fan on Acid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no jive Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Lane I am no longer on Team Webb. The said I have to much Yang and I am poison to any rider who wants to win a National or World Title Actually I think Patrick and Cody are on the same Team. And I am really looking forward to seeing Patrick ride the Pro class. I watched him last year and he really rides good. You can really tell he gets a lot from the bicycle trials. One of the reasons I went and bought a new Sherco was because of how Ryan sponsers alot of young riders and does a lot for the up and coming riders in the US. So only time will tell who is the better rider. Both riders are at an age where it is up to them on how hard they want to win. There is no I in team but there is in WIN. That sheep joke was bhhaahhdd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perce Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 That sheep joke was bhhaahhdd. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ewe though it was funny though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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