dan williams Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 I don’t know who designed the Beta kickstand but they should be flogged. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapezeartist Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 Seems a bit harsh, Dan. I would agree it’s a bit agricultural, but it works. I’ve just had to rework mine a bit. It moved about slightly on the swinging arm. When I took it all off I found a loose helicoil on one of the fixings. (Do Beta fit helicoils as standard or has mine already had a repair?) We couldn’t get a new helicoil to go in right so I drilled through and used a nut and bolt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan williams Posted May 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 The stand itself is OK but access to the fasteners is, to say the least, less than user friendly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapezeartist Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 17 hours ago, dan williams said: The stand itself is OK but access to the fasteners is, to say the least, less than user friendly. I can’t disagree with that. I had to do the job on the bench with the swinging arm removed. And checking the fixings is one of the items on the Beta UK SSDT preparation list. It might be possible to access them with a T-handle allen key, but I don’t have one the right size. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan williams Posted May 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 I had to pull the footpeg brackets and drop the bottom suspension linkage. Was still a pain in the derrière. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Seems like a ball ended Allen set made short work out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan williams Posted May 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 It would help but there’s a lot of torque required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapezeartist Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, dan williams said: It would help but there’s a lot of torque required. Agreed. The long side has the ball-end on it so you end up having to apply torque with the short side (by bodging on a bit of tube, or mole grips, or something). Not nice. Dan, did you find the threads had helicoils in them? I'm not sure if Beta put them in as standard, or whether mine has already been repaired before I got it. Edited May 21, 2019 by trapezeartist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcgods Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 On 5/18/2019 at 10:00 PM, dan williams said: I don’t know who designed the Beta kickstand but they should be flogged. And the mounting bracket made of the softest metal known to man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan williams Posted May 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 To be honest I didn’t crawl under to look. But I suspect they do as I screwed in stainless replacement bolts to check the threads and pulled out some steel thread material that didn’t come from the stainless bolts or the OEM bolts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapezeartist Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Exactly like mine then, Dan. My stand was a bit wobbly. When I took off the swinging arm and then removed the stand, one of the helicoils had partly come out so was preventing the stand seating properly. My local mechanic tried to replace the helicoil but the new coil wouldn’t go in properly. I drilled through the swinging arm and used a M8 nut and bolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leooshea Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 I found that if I parked on soft ground and the kickstand sank into the dirt it would put enough torque on the kickstand to loosen the bolts. I the first time I did this I was happy to find that Beta installed helicoils. My cure is to pull the swingarm, install new stainless bolts and torque them at maximum torque for the bolt. With the swingarm off the bike I can then get a straight hex wrench on the bolts. This and being careful where I park seems to solve the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heffergm Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindie Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 Mines missing. I can see a helicoil in the swingarm. I find trees or rocks as a stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan williams Posted May 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, pindie said: Mines missing. I can see a helicoil in the swingarm. I find trees or rocks as a stand. Yeah me too for about 6 months but there’s no denying the convenience of just being able to park it without finding a tree. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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