Tilly60 Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 Hi, just purchased the above bike it’s in fairly good condition for age a couple of questions please, Should the clutch stick like the Beta ones, if so can it be addressed same removing glue between material ? What’s the petrol mix to oil ? oil for gearbox type ? link to servicing and repairs Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragontest Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Tilly60 said: Hi, just purchased the above bike it’s in fairly good condition for age a couple of questions please, Should the clutch stick like the Beta ones, if so can it be addressed same removing glue between material ? What’s the petrol mix to oil ? oil for gearbox type ? link to servicing and repairs Thanks in advance I have rock oil in the gearbox and I'm mixing petrol two stroke at 100mil to 5 litres using fully synthetic oil. Due the the age of my GasGas (1995) I prefer slightly richer than some. My clutch also sticks and I have just started to tape the leaver back to the bars to allow the oil to get between the plates more. What's the fix you talk about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilly60 Posted July 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 I had a Beta 2002 200 and with all betas until the engine gets hot when you engage it lurches forward, so I went on this site and found the better fix you take the plates out and file the gaps between the clutch materials to remove the glue, as when the plates wear the glue makes it stick put it into this site, Tate a couple of hours and made mine 80%better thanks for other info, looking forward to tackling it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragontest Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 I've taken the clutch apart this afternoon and did as you suggested. Removed any glue or crud from the gaps between the friction material on each clutch plate. I've put in Pennzoil 5w30 none synthetic oil I will see if it's an improvement in the coming weeks. I think the water pump is weeping in to the gearbox as the oil was looking a bit milky when draining it, also small bits on the magnetic sump plug, so it's best to change it and keep an eye on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilly60 Posted August 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Mines better, and same think seals gone on water pump where are you getting new one from please ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragontest Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 11 hours ago, Tilly60 said: Mines better, and same think seals gone on water pump where are you getting new one from please ta Try either GasGas UK in Buxton Derbyshire or Trials &Tribulations Ltd in Church Stretton Shropshire. I'm running a oil petrol mix of 75mil to 5 Litres which is 66:1, I think non synthetic two stroke oil works better in these older bikes at that ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilly60 Posted August 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 thanks for that Agreed non synthetic is best dont think it’s a big job to change pump seal ? enjoying doing it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragontest Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 I've just stripped down the radiator off bike to fix the fan. I bought a eBay fan to replace it( cut n glue job) to find out it's just one of the connectors in the power, it had pushed out of the connection block.so it wasn't making a connection... Boy do I feed daft for not checking the connector first. Plus side it's got new antifreeze in it now... Still might have a weeping water pump though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilly60 Posted August 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 I have found oil in the water “ clumps” around filler and by water pump which I think means it’s been leaking a while. there are so many different combos out there for petrol to oil mix, confused really, some say non some say synthetic putoline strawberry mix, confused really as when I bought it had some in but lad didn’t know what he’d put in in ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragontest Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 I've just bought some mineral two stroke oil from Screwfix to try, I've mixed 75 mil to 5L. (60:1) It's worth a try to see how it runs on the mix. Otherwise I have a large amount of fuel for the strimmer ?. We also put in a new master seal kit in the clutch lever yesterday. The next thing will be a new clutch... Plus water pump repair kit from trials and tribulations I think we will try ATF when we do drop in a new clutch as I've heard it solves a lot of issues. Have you heard anything about using ATF in the GasGas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilly60 Posted August 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 No I’ve not heard owt about ATF i am gonner try the putoline strawberry mix and will let you know ive had the pump cover off, all seems to be ok, tried an o ring at back of impeller again will see what happens going to try and get fan to kick in this week and test it out love prattling about ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragontest Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 Check the connector as mine had 1 of the pins not making contact causing the fan not to work. I only discoverd it once I had it in bits and tested via a battery, I tried a jumper wire on the thermostat wires to make a circuit while the engine was running, but the fan didn't run. That's why I took it to pieces to replace the original fan with another from eBay for a tenner. But didn't need to do anything other than push a connector in the block... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragontest Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 Your bike looks nice. Mines a bit tatty as a 17 year old had it before and didn't have a clue on looking after it. It's getting plenty of attention now though. These bikes are getting rare. A blast from the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilly60 Posted August 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 Mines 23 yrs old but been well looked after, your right hopefully collectors items in time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilly60 Posted August 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 I will check and thanks for the tip on connectors will kept you informed on how it goes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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