larry s. k. Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Hi any body know what year or models the stroke . Bore changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feetupfun Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, larry s. k. said: Hi any body know what year or models the stroke . Bore changed Which engine are you asking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry s. k. Posted April 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Hi basically 250 and 350 Pursang alpine Sherpa , I building. Engines and interchanging parts , cylinders on all these models , 213 192 199. 166 159 , wondering what year , I found 166 cylinder on my. 213 ,, so I little confused how far back change , I measured piston skirt. , the older are defiantly shorter , say early 350 off a matador ,, some are different lengths on 350 around 5 inches , and more and less of what few I have , , any info might help , thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa325 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 All Sherpa T 250 325 340 models have 60mm strokes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry s. k. Posted April 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Ok that helps ,Sherpa t ,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feetupfun Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 I see you have M166 and M213 cylinders. These are 350 Alpina cylinders and will be for a longer stroke bottom end than the Sherpa T cylinders you mentioned. The first "350" Alpina (M99) was actually 325cc and had a 60mm stroke. The "350" Alpina models after the M99 were actually 350cc and this was from having the longer stroke. Because of this, the M166 and M213 cylinders will be longer than your Sherpa T cylinders. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feetupfun Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Another thing that might clear up some confusion is that the number stamped on a Bultaco cylinder is usually the Bultaco model number that the cylinder first appeared on. For example the first 5-speed 250 Sherpa T was the M27. The M27 cylinder is stamped 27. The following Sherpa T models (49, 80 and 91) also have 27 stamped on their cylinders. This may explain why your M213 Alpina cylinder is stamped 116. M116 is an earlier model 350 Alpina than the M213. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry s. k. Posted April 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Great , thanks info think some one rebuilt 213 many years ago and Parker it , I picked it up from a picker ? He never started it , had fuel in it looked dark , thought it was a ready runner got it running after 40 kicks , was tired engine , so, back to drawing board find right , cylinder , have 166 , it’s needs boring if , fixable at last oversized, they charge 100. To bore and tax at our local machine shop , going look at my spares , I cannot use 199 , upon info it’s 60 mm , it’s nice shape , I save for another , when working with older 250 so 68 pursang Alpina 85 parts interchange , with no problem ,, ya always thinking how to put puzzle together , , and really liked 213 the way it rides. Thinking ,, that made changes around 1975 to 76 , , mk models go all over upon looking at production list , could not find any engine production on line , just. Some info on bultaco changed bore stroke for tax , Government regulation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feetupfun Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Pursang Mk5 and Mk6 325cc, Mk7 and Mk8 360cc, Mk9 and Mk10 and Mk11 370cc The engine that changed capacity for tax purposes was the Sherpa T 250 and it went to 238cc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourex Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) David, I salute you and I mean that sincerely. You try to decipher the "indecipherable", I just smack my head on the table. Edited April 9, 2020 by fourex 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry s. k. Posted April 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Thanks info site supporter feetupfun , ,, I need all info , help can get , your in Australia , great I shipped a model 70 short block to Australia , to bultaco Australia parts .com a year or so , He is building a el bandito , , I’m in different time zone , cheers ,larry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle8 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 12 hours ago, fourex said: David, I salute you and I mean that sincerely. You try to decipher the "undecipherable", I just smack my head on the table. Just have another XXXX That's how they spell beer in most parts of the World, but Queenslander's are different than most people 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourex Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, eagle8 said: Just have another XXXX That's how they spell beer in most parts of the World, but Queenslander's are different than most people Another had, and another and so on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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