Johnny Halidy Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) i just bought a Trials Bike of unknown orgins. id like to know what it it, it looks to be a DOT but im not sure. it also might have a Villiers engine but again im not sure hahah. i would like to know what engine it has so i can find parts. the frame vin is : what might be an H 530350 engine case vin is : A2502DCR 3966 Edited May 4, 2020 by Johnny Halidy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greychapel Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 Engine is a Villiers Starmaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collyolly Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 That does not look like a trials bike more an enduro bike, as the steering and foot rest position would not work for trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjw123 Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 Starmaker engine was primarily used for Scrambles (MX). The overall look of the bike points to that type of use. High front guard, smallish rear sprocket, etc. If you got it running, you might just find it a bit lively for trials work. There's a DOT (Devoid of Trouble) tank badge present. Lots of parts from other makes . No idea what the frame is.The lights tend to lend it to it being a one off special trail bike. Might make a useful classic scrambler. Will certainly upset the neighbours if you rode it down the street. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsrfun Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) The engine is a Villiers Starmaker contact Villiers Services here in the UK for all you need. Frame is a DOT which would have had DOT leading link forks fitted when new, the forks currently fitted could be MP Metal Profiles. Uncertain about the wheels earlier DOT bikes had pressed steel British Hub Company 40 spoke hubs, then later usually on the square tube framed bikes Grimeca alloy full width hubs which were 36 spoke. https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&id=1AECF324898D4A4997662D6A96C460A958C0B0FA&thid=OIP.2GaDQ1durw9lLnBEulx_TAHaE5&mediaurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimg2.thejournal.ie%2Finline%2F4256348%2Foriginal%2F%3Fwidth%3D630%26version%3D4256348&exph=417&expw=630&q=dot+scrambles+motorcycle&selectedindex=13&ajaxhist=0&vt=0&eim=1,2,6 Edited May 4, 2020 by trialsrfun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamferret Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 I agree the frame could be DOT, but from the early 60's probably a trials marshall and would have left the factory with a 197 or 250 villiers engine and leading link forks. That is a very late starmaker engine so spares will probably be easier obtained from AJS. I would refit a villiers engine and steepen up the fork rake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai-ty Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 That ain't no trials bike dude.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prototype Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 Good finding .. try to get it going ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradleyCastrolMaxima Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 Yeah it actually isn’t a trials bike but if it was it looks pretty close to a montesa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 14 hours ago, BradleyCastrolMaxima said: Yeah it actually isn’t a trials bike but if it was it looks pretty close to a montesa does it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc2 Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) Quite a bitza. Frame almost definitely DOT as mentioned above. Late 50's/early 60s? Rear frame loop bent up considerably looks non-standard Tank looks like Bantam Forks look early Montesa. Front wheel maybe too. Forks much longer than original DOT leading link forks, hence the raked out look. Have no idea about the triples/yokes or rear wheel That engine prefix is AJS Stormer MX engine. A bit frisky for trials but more modern design than 9E/32A/37A favoured for trials. Anything can be fixed with the right knowhow. Edited October 31, 2020 by jc2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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