msh7995 Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Hi all, I was hoping to get a bit of help as to why I can’t select 4th or 5th gear on my 2004 rev 3 250. Using 15w40 gearbox oil atm but I’m suspecting something more serious and having to strip the bottom end to find the solution. Is there anything obvious I should look for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan williams Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 First I’d pull the primary drive off including the clutch and with the bike on a stand spin the rear wheel while turning the shift cam to make sure the cam and shift forks are working. Unless you see something obvious you may be forced to split the cases to look for bent or worn shift forks. Beta uses an aluminum shift drum which will wear after long term use. Good luck and let us know what you find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Dan us correct. But while removing the skid plate take note where it is hitting the bottom of the engine. I suspect bent cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msh7995 Posted June 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2020 Thanks for taking time to respond, I’ll start and split the clutch and primary drive later on to get a look. I’ll check the cases while I’m at it. Thanks again to both of you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauls320 Posted June 22, 2020 Report Share Posted June 22, 2020 Seen several Beta shift shaft welds shear where the pawl arm is attached, if this is the case, just remove and reweld...easy & cheap. Best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted June 22, 2020 Report Share Posted June 22, 2020 That only happens on the 4T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauls320 Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 Ah, yes they were, good info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan williams Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 Not being able to get only two gears makes me think he’ll end up having to split the cases since the external mechanism is the same for all gears. I’ll have to look at the gear diagram to see if there’s a common element to 4th and 5th. I suppose a good question is, What do you mean you can’t select them? Do they just act as neutral or can you not just get out of 3rd or when you upshift the box just rejects the shift. Can you get into 6th? The more info we have the better the debug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msh7995 Posted June 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 Gear lever is difficult to click up or down into gear from neutral, can sometimes skip from second into third when changing up as well. Can’t seem to select the gears so their not running as false neutrals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msh7995 Posted June 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 Sorry skips from first to third Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan williams Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 Geez that sounds like your indexer bearing has fallen off. As weird as it sounds this may be a best case scenario as it sounds like the cam/indexer interface is gone kapow! like a Don Martin cartoon. I think when you get the clutch basket off it'll be pretty obvious. Anything external to the cases is pretty easy to replace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan williams Posted June 27, 2020 Report Share Posted June 27, 2020 I do have indexers I made with better bearings that should fit your bike. Let me know if you need one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan williams Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 Any update? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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