tricky1965 Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Good Morning All I have brought a Yamaha YZ250 yesterday I want to put it on road exempt enduro and get a log book for it and put it on q plate make it road legal , the last owner as put It on day time Mot which is ok so mot runs out July this year on this bike , question is will I need to register the bike with nova hmrc ? only thing ive done is filled in v55/5 form following guides on the utube that part is fine ,,,,please advise what other steps I need to do many thanks rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzuki250 Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Is the bike an import? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tricky1965 Posted February 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Good morning, The bike is not a import I've filled v55/5 form ready to send, looking online you need to send nova Certificate photo copy of driving licence utility bill etc I don't have the nova Certificate. with it having mot on bike would you think its on gov web site and maybe nova? all logged. or Should I fill in the online nova and start again Thank you for help rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 You have to complete the NOVA form. It's really designed for new imports but a NOVA completion is required to register anything. It's to ensure that any VAT and import duty have been aid on a vehicle. NOVA is a declaration to HMRC and seperate from the registration process. DVLA won't register anything until it is on NOVA system If you search this specific topic for NOVA there is plenty of info on what you have to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tricky1965 Posted February 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 Thank you I've just completed that nova ,,,,the last owner put this bike through mot surely it would be logged on gov website and nova already? but on mot paper work I have it don't have a bike reg but only vin plate number for id and passed a mot for day time use only thank you for help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 NOVA is nothing to do with the MOT and the MOT won't display any NOVA reference. NOVA is purely a HMRC process concerning duty payable on imported vehicles. DVLA will check all V55/5 applications to see if the vehicle is recorded on NOVA, if it isn't they won't issue a registration number. NOVA records the VIN number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepytheclutchmaster Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 If its been on a day time mot before you don't have to nova it. It should be on sorn by the previous owner and he should if asked for your details to change the ownership of the bike when he sold it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 29 minutes ago, Creepytheclutchmaster said: If its been on a day time mot before you don't have to nova it. It should be on sorn by the previous owner and he should if asked for your details to change the ownership of the bike when he sold it. The bike hasn't been registered so yes it does have to be recorded on NOVA to register it. It was MOT'd on the chassis number for registration or insurance purposes. There is no V5 to change ownership on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tricky1965 Posted February 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 Good Afternoon woody I have contacted nova got the nova ref number for this The bike so we are ok to go to v55/5 form ****do I have to send off insurance cover note with form?*** I have v55 form ready to send a photo copy of driving licence, utility bill and mot paper work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisCH Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) You can get an MOT on any vehicle whether or not it is registered in the UK. The test is simply a requirement for UK registered vehicles. I registered our car when we returned to the UK and the requirements were some sort of insurance and a current MOT (if over 3 years old). As the car was registered elsewhere in the EU you just changed the documentation. Since leaving the EU the process is a bit more complex to my personal experience but essentially you will still need an MOT on an old vehicle and this can be issued on the VIN number if the vehicle is not registered. Therefore the existence of an MOT does not confirm the vehicle has already been registered. You posted same second as me - edit - for us on the car you had to have insurance and the application required payment for the VED as well. Not sure if you can apply and SORN at the same time, doubt it - the DVLA want your cash ? Edited February 8, 2021 by ChrisCH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tricky1965 Posted February 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 Good Afternoon I have contacted nova got the nova ref number for this The bike so we are ok to go to v55/5 form ****do I have to send off insurance cover note with form?*** I have v55 form ready to send a photo copy of driving licence, utility bill and mot paper work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tricky1965 Posted February 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) Hello Again all thank you for your help Attached photo could anyone tell me is this engine serial number MS4 1P8 4YB015 or is it just 4YB015 i need it to be correct on v55/5 form Edited February 8, 2021 by tricky1965 spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 Can't help with the engine number as I'm not familiar with YZ numbering but I'd have thought it matched the frame number in part. The engine number isn't as important to the V5 as the chassis number. To register it you don't need insurance unless you're in Northern Ireland but you have to tax it which you can then surrender and SORN it if you need to. Check the DVLA website for registering a new vehicle for what you need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, tricky1965 said: Thank you I've just completed that nova ,,,,the last owner put this bike through mot surely it would be logged on gov website and nova already? but on mot paper work I have it don't have a bike reg but only vin plate number for id and passed a mot for day time use only thank you for help If you send a V62 form to DVLA with the chassis and engine number (plus pics), they will give you the original registration number that the bike was MOT'd on Costs you £25 No need for an awkward Q plate Edited February 8, 2021 by johnnyboxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tricky1965 Posted February 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 Hi Johnnyboxer, I phone DVLA with Chassis number etc told them it had mot paper work with no reg on it, they said you can mot a bike without reg , good news on nova that's all ok now, ready for v55/5 form to be sent ,form filled ready in with photo copy of driving licence photo copy of utility bill the original mot certificate i think that's all I need? and postal orders tomorrow for fees and bike tax. might have to have q plate unless I register certificate of newness I think its called Thank you for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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