joe315r Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 (edited) I just watched the "Sunday" DVD from TrialsTV ,, and as one of many clear examples, Fuji , on lap one section 10 dabbed twelve times, yet he was given a score of 3. Is there some grade inflation going on here? Edited February 9, 2006 by joe315r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcota Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 A three point deduction is the most number of points that can be given for dabbing in a section so he could have dabbed 100 times and still receive a three for his efforts. This has been normal practice for decades. For clarification check the rule book for trials events in your area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pa. Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Footing more than twice is 3 Points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 UNLESS ITS INDOORS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_290 Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Foe the ultimate rule bender and all-time escaper, look back at some old footage of Marc Colomer at some of the European rounds. Some of the stuff that he managed to 'getaway with' is jaw-dropping. Go back to some 1998-2000 stuff to see what I mean. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You got the video you bought from me on Ebay then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernnorm Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Lets hope this poster is just trying to be funny. But whats not funny is the number of people wishing that trials was NO_STOP ,,tell me how do you get square and balanced and get the bike cleaned out to attack the 7 foot undercut ledge? Yeah thats right they have never tried it and may barely have a clue how,other thing is many of these folks are scoring for the World Riders even moving kickers out of sections for the 15 foot splatters .Its like hey they can do the impossible lets make sure it is (impossible).I think the stop w/ penalty was more about getting rid of the big straight rollbacks of the Jordi and Eddy Lejuene days .Now I think w/ the time limit the sections flow well enough to please spectators so why change? The hard part of scoring is how do you call a big slide sideways and backwards on a hard obstacle if the rider goes from the spot the bike settled from and gets over log or rock is that a 5? Even tougher is when the handlebar hits the ground its a 5 but leaning on a tree or rock face is a 1 at what angle does the bike or rock have to be before its a crash ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe315r Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 I agree , observers have a very tough job. My six year old son "observes " for me and some friends on informal practice rides. And nothing gets past his eyes. And there is no way you can win an argument with a six year old. Unless you happen to be their parental unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pa. Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Even tougher is when the handlebar hits the ground its a 5 but leaning on a tree or rock face is a 1 at what angle does the bike or rock have to be before its a crash ??? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I call a handle bar hitting a rock as a 5 like if it hit the dirt but the tree is free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neumy Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 I guess at the world level they don't use crossing your own line rule. There is a great example of this non-call on section one, day one, female montesa rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_h Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 I guess at the world level they don't use crossing your own line rule. There is a great example of this non-call on section one, day one, female montesa rider. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> female montesa rider - LAIA SANZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikespace Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 I guess at the world level they don't use crossing your own line rule. There is a great example of this non-call on section one, day one, female montesa rider. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's a really awkward rule. I've just watched it and wound it back and forth a few times. You have to actually cross with both wheels (ie. the rule is that you can't cross your tracks with more than one wheel). Even running it in slow motion it's hard to tell if her front wheel ever actually crosses its own track. Looks like Laia's pretty careful to run the front wheel right along the tape, so you can understand why an observer may not pick up on it. We had a section at Hawkstone where there was some advantage from crossing your own line, and the minders would put their foot exactly where the wheel passed, so there was no doubt when the rider came back. Not sure I would have called it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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