TimDH Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 Currently have a 4Rt which I've lost all confidence in brake wise so I'm looking for another brand. I don't want to be fettling all the time but I've no idea what would be a good choice. Budget isn't an issue and I'm excluding GasGas as they are frankly rubbish quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faussy Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 Youre wanting to go from a 4rt and replace it with something more reliable? Best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyc21 Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) There was some past issues with burs in the brake masters on some of the older Braktech systems maybe you just got unlucky and have one that is eating up your seals?  Not a 4RT issue but a braktech one if that is the issue. PS. unless you have an older AJP based system most if not all of the current trials brands use the same brake systems so really can't get away from that without replacing with old stock AJP. Edited January 29, 2022 by jonnyc21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimDH Posted January 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 50 minutes ago, faussy said: Youre wanting to go from a 4rt and replace it with something more reliable? Best of luck Try reading my post properly HTH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnapoxy Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 If it has wheels or a skirt, There will be troubles. Its best to learn to work on your own motorcycle. brakes are very easy to maintain & repair. just saying---- 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 You should have been around in 2011 with formula brakes on the new models. Most brake problems are self induced and almost all trials bikes use the same parts. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimDH Posted January 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 7 hours ago, magnapoxy said: If it has wheels or a skirt, There will be troubles. Its best to learn to work on your own motorcycle. brakes are very easy to maintain & repair. just saying---- A quick search of this forum suggest otherwise,just saying 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpauls Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 8 hours ago, magnapoxy said: If it has wheels or a skirt, There will be troubles. Its best to learn to work on your own motorcycle. brakes are very easy to maintain & repair. just saying---- Give up trials and become celibate would be my advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theluckyone Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 Vertigo is the only other bike without a carb. I'm a reluctant spannerman and it suits me. I had 3 4RT's and loved them all, had no brake trouble. £11k will get you the lightest techist (made up word) bike available from Vertigo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totty79 Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 Any bike ridden in water and mud will need regular maintenance mainly to brakes and bearings, it's unavoidable. I also don't buy into carbs being high maintenance, I've needed to clean them once or twice at most in the last 10 years. Keep the fuel clean and the air filter properly oiled and they don't cause problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnapoxy Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 Carbs are o.k. by me. Its a good idea to use a slintered bronze inline fuel filter between petcock & carb inlet. Also, the 2 upper vent hoses on carbs are just that. Vent hoses. Its a good idea to not have these 2 upper hoses hanging below the engine. Yes, when you tip over they will spill gasoline. but its better to have these hoses above carb. End of hoses turned downwards. 2 small fuel filters used for large gasoline r-c race cars on ends of these 2 vent hoses helps greatly.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 hours ago, magnapoxy said: Carbs are o.k. by me. Its a good idea to use a slintered bronze inline fuel filter between petcock & carb inlet. Also, the 2 upper vent hoses on carbs are just that. Vent hoses. Its a good idea to not have these 2 upper hoses hanging below the engine. Yes, when you tip over they will spill gasoline. but its better to have these hoses above carb. End of hoses turned downwards. 2 small fuel filters used for large gasoline r-c race cars on ends of these 2 vent hoses helps greatly.  Please expand, new theory to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapezeartist Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 7:36 PM, TimDH said: Currently have a 4Rt which I've lost all confidence in brake wise so I'm looking for another brand. I don't want to be fettling all the time but I've no idea what would be a good choice. Budget isn't an issue and I'm excluding GasGas as they are frankly rubbish quality. Perhaps you could e more specific about your brake issues and then someone could guide you towards a simpler solution. After reading the title of your post I was going to suggest an electric bike (no carburettor, no air filter, no ignition system, no radiator, no fan, no exhaust, no gearbox). But they do have brakes (🙂) which will be just as reliable or unreliable as on your 4RT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnapoxy Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 hours ago, b40rt said: Please expand, new theory to me. these 2 upper hose fittings are vents. as fuel in bowl is used these admit air into the carb. if the ends of these 2 hoses are under the bike- if you cross deep H2O and give a big handfull of throttle these hoses can pull H2O into the carbs throttle slide area, go into the engine. this fact also applies to fine trail dust also. The filters on ends of hoses are to keep some of the dust out if you are riding in a total cloud of dust, and they will help keep H2O out if you use a pressure washer on bike.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnapoxy Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 13 hours ago, stpauls said: Give up trials and become celibate would be my advice. My advice to you is to not have such a smart mouth when a member is joking & suggesting to learn how to repair a simple brake issue--Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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