crankcase Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 Hi folks, Iv'e seen Montesa/Honda stats saying their 2022 260 weighs 73 kg, is that a real number? For comparison what is the real weight of say a Beta 2022 250? Just trying to work out exactly how much weight difference there really is between the Montesa and the 2 stroke equivalents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robido Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) Don't know about the others I have a gas gas 2017 GP it's 65kg Edited April 2, 2022 by robido Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle8 Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 I'm thinking a 4 stroke would feel heavier no mater the weight, because of the motor design, high up weight ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyc21 Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 It really depends on the design of the engine, example the Beta and Montesa 4T's have a very compact head design that keeps the weight of the engine more centered than a more typical 4T dirt bike when it comes to their trials bikes and in fact when I compare my daughters Gas Gas 125 to my Montesa the Montesa dose have more weight but its so much lower that it actually feels more planted than the 125. Sure the 125 is lighter and you can defiantly feel the difference but in the end when comparing curb weight it was only about ~8-9lbs (~4-4.5kg) or so different between the 08 Gas Gas 125 and the 07 Montesa 4RT on my scale. Just some info for consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyc21 Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) Oh and my 2017 Montesa 300RR ready to ride weight was 163.2lbs (~74.0kg) and my 07 4RT was 165.9lbs (~75.25kg) curb weight with the Gas Gas 125 at 154.2kbs (~69.9kg). No it was not a calibrated scale so probably only worth the 2 cents its worth. Also the 07 did have some minor weight savings things done to it by the previous owner so that is partly why I think it wasn't that far off of the 300RR. Edited April 2, 2022 by jonnyc21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 The montesa weights more, you can feel the difference when picking the back up against my 2022 GasGas, but on the course you don't notice it and the mont is very planted, maybe just not as nimble for moving around when stationary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crankcase Posted April 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 Good to know manufacturers are being honest with weights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEBLAMMERS Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rk13eXGQ88 Someone's taken the time to lynch a few trials bikes from a tree to answer your queries? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 Went from a trrs rr 300 to a 2021 Montesa 301. Has to be right around 15 Lbs. Huge difference between bikes as I load without a ramp quite often. And when you hop it is quite noticeable. That said, I got rod of the TRS as it does not hold a line. The Montesa is very PLANTED in comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crankcase Posted April 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 Thanks folks, good video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curd1 Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 I just weighed a few bikes: 2022 Vertigo Nitro 300 with a 1/2 tank of fuel and it was 158 lbs (80 rear, 78 front) 2020 GasGas TXT300 with 1/2 tank of fuel and it was 157 lbs. (78 rear, 79 front) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 You have to weigh the whole bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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