mcman56 Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 I have arthritis in both thumbs. The trapezium bone has been removed in one hand and pending in the other. Some knuckles are not in great shape either. Both hands and wrists are getting quite sore from riding and stay that way afterward. I would think modern suspension would be better but my Beta 4t is harder on my hands than my TY175. On the beta I'm constantly on the clutch and front brake plus ride bigger obstacles. (I did put thinner oil in the forks.) On the TY I'm mostly on throttle only and suspect the skinny forks flex around to help cushion things. I do try to minimize hand pressure when riding. I have thought of an electric bike because you don't need to use the clutch but I'm not sure if the clutch is really part of the problem. Has anyone found any tricks, accessories or mods to make trials easier on their hands? Are some bikes easier on hands? This question is from the perspective of being able to ride not from the perspective of being able to ride well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaecowarrior Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 I suffer from pressure on my ulna nerve when I ride. It results in a painful palm on the outside of the hand near the little finger and radiates down to the wrist. Basically my grip is squeezing my nerve when I ride. Trials gloves are very thin and unforgiving. I've found the only things that help are soft grips, padded gloves and not riding too frequently. I limit it to 1 trial or ride a week. Physio definitely helps such as squeezing a tennis ball. Hopping definitely makes my hands worse too. I also take 400 mg of ibuprofen before I ride to dampen down any inflammation. In between sections I do hand exercises too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpauls Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 Get yourself a modern Beta/Sherco/TRS 125 two stroke. Much easier to ride. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feetupfun Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 For a period of about two years a few years ago I had very severe reactive arthritis which is a normal and lingering after-effect of Ross River Virus. It mainly affected my fingers, wrists and elbows. It meant I couldn't hold on well. Through that period, I avoided any sort of heavy loading on the front end. To help with comfort in smaller stuff, I backed off the fork spring preload slightly and ran lighter fork oil and experimented with handlebar position all of which made the bikes easier to hold onto. All my trials bikes are twinshock era which I find are generally easier on the arms and hands than modern bikes. I also found that my heavier twinshocks were easier to hold onto and rode smoother than the lighter ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle8 Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 I have arthritis in both wrists & fingers, i used to wear a TLD wrist brace # 5205 & take an anti inflam before rides,i also have a Sherco & KTM that i do High Country rides & single track with. I had tried just about every supplement recommended, i would give them about 10 weeks & then try another 1, i was just about to think this is life as i know it then i came across NZ Green Lipped Mussel capsules, i noticed an improvement after about 2 weeks, I've been taking them every morning after breakfast for about 18mths now & i NO longer wear a brace or take any pre ride tabs, i recommend them to everybody I also have a few fresh pineapple pieces & juice with my breakfast, pineapple is also an anti inflam, i worked as sparkie so used my hands a lot which probably didn't help with my hand condition, i'm 70 in a few months & have to say, i'm looking @ trail riding twice a week & playing around on my Honda tlr 250 as often & as long as i can ! I also did some damage to my left knee playing Over40's Aussie rules, it used to give me some sort of pain most days, i would wear a hinged brace when i rode my bikes, i've also noticed very little pain & i don't wear the brace anymore 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcman56 Posted February 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2023 On 2/15/2023 at 11:31 AM, feetupfun said: For a period of about two years a few years ago I had very severe reactive arthritis which is a normal and lingering after-effect of Ross River Virus. It mainly affected my fingers, wrists and elbows. It meant I couldn't hold on well. Through that period, I avoided any sort of heavy loading on the front end. To help with comfort in smaller stuff, I backed off the fork spring preload slightly and ran lighter fork oil and experimented with handlebar position all of which made the bikes easier to hold onto. All my trials bikes are twinshock era which I find are generally easier on the arms and hands than modern bikes. I also found that my heavier twinshocks were easier to hold onto and rode smoother than the lighter ones. Do you think the old damping rod forks may be easier on hands...up until the speed they spike. See the graph 1/2 way down the page in this link comparing damping rods with cartridge forks. https://racetech.com/page/title/Emulators-How They Work The damping rod curve certainly looks easier on hands to me. I'll try riding my TL250 and see how that feels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ftwelder Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 My thumb knuckles have arthritis which has recently been aggravated by switching to a modern bike as well and read that high quality olive oil blocks some types of pain when massaged into effected areas. Seems worth a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htrdoug Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 Mediterranean diet has helped me with my aches and pains, and I'm just kinda easing into it. Down 40 Lbs. Modern is easier on me, so I'm building a vintage to mimic a modern as much as possible. I don't run my bars as fashionably forward as some,but definitely not back into trail bike position. Experiment with lever position too. I like Devil's club salve too, works better for me than CBD . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcman56 Posted July 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 I was able to reduce shock through the handlebars on my TY175 by using a fat bar and rubber mounts from a mid 2000 CRF250. See picture. I was already using risers to put the bars in that position so there was no ergonomic change. At rest, I can flex the bars a bit but notice no negatives while riding. Rox Risers sell something that looks similar. I don't see a good way to squeeze these into a modern bike without a big change in bar position but have found it is quite easy to change the valving in a modern Beta's forks. https://ibb.co/GWLwwMB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry s. k. Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 Hi ,, I use liquid jell massage gel , called blue stop , it’s in groceries stores , located aspirin & cold flue ,, exc,, I have used tiger balm , it’s more exp , both work fine basically for joints and muscles , , just don’t put on face & eyes , cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry s. k. Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 4 hours ago, larry s. k. said: Hi ,, I use liquid jell massage gel , called blue stop , it’s in groceries stores , located aspirin & cold flue ,, exc,, I have used tiger balm , it’s more exp , both work fine basically for joints and muscles , , just don’t put on face & eyes , cheers Find bike does not fibrate so much ,, and a seat , 15 minutes once while , , I live. On gravel road , , have p****d off neighbors , , from racing , so I put on better muffler , , , I had old hondas , like 50 to 100 cc There pretty smooth ,, , I using a 100 cc hodaka , at this time , cheers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptStarck Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 Part of the improvement can also be to ride more on the legs. We tend to use our arms and grip strength too much. Theorethically while riding a section, 80 to 90% of the time if you would apply a 'screenfreeze' you should be positionned and balanced in such way that you could virtually take your hands of the handlebar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemur Posted October 10 Report Share Posted October 10 I think my entire body is going arthritic but riding seems to help 🖖 my arthritis hurts most after periods of stagnation, seems to go away when I'm riding, comes back in a hurry when I crash and can't get up. Treatment plan is to ride more, crash and stagnate less. ... now if you can tell me how to get out of the truck after a long drive and not feel like a 100 year old man in need of a walker 👍 I'm considering glucosamine supplements because it did seem to work for my dog. Curious if anybody has had success with that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjmlancs Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 Very interesting post! I have a right arm disability which has caused me to use my left arm dominantly & my 4 main joints ache after riding. I've just soaked in a hot bath & I've been using pain tabs & volterol gel. As I'm serious about getting better at trials even with a arm that doesn't work I've just been reading about joint care. Vitamins D & K Glucosamine Turmeric Chondrotin In the UK Holland & Barrett plus Boots do both. Jointace has Glucosamine, turmeric & Chondrotin. As I'm aching a bit I've just ordered them so I will let you know how I get on once I've started a course of them & taken them a while. The problem i find in the UK is we get weedy doses compared to Europe. I will let you know how I get on. Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted October 13 Report Share Posted October 13 11 hours ago, sjmlancs said: Very interesting post! I have a right arm disability which has caused me to use my left arm dominantly & my 4 main joints ache after riding. I've just soaked in a hot bath & I've been using pain tabs & volterol gel. As I'm serious about getting better at trials even with a arm that doesn't work I've just been reading about joint care. Vitamins D & K Glucosamine Turmeric Chondrotin In the UK Holland & Barrett plus Boots do both. Jointace has Glucosamine, turmeric & Chondrotin. As I'm aching a bit I've just ordered them so I will let you know how I get on once I've started a course of them & taken them a while. The problem i find in the UK is we get weedy doses compared to Europe. I will let you know how I get on. Si Try Simply Supplements for heavier doses. Turmeric with black pepper is supposed to be easier for the body to absorbe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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