obd Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 Brand new to trials. I have a 04 Scorpa 125 which has a stop button. Just wondering if there is much difference between the Apico & more expensive Leonelli ones used on modern Scorpas before I buy one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feetupfun Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 hour ago, obd said: Brand new to trials. I have a 04 Scorpa 125 which has a stop button. Just wondering if there is much difference between the Apico & more expensive Leonelli ones used on modern Scorpas before I buy one? The Leonelli has a longer red plastic bit that houses the magnet, so is a bit more easily bumped off its seat. They have opposite magnetic polarity. I haven't looked close enough to see it the magnets are held in place differently. Having the magnet pop out of the holder seems to be a fairly common problem, based on how many people have asked to borrow a lanyard after theirs lost its magnet. I didn't notice a difference in price between them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr1AL Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) @obd I have both , Leonelli magnet plastic red cap actually clips as well as having the magnet to connect it to the black base where the connecter is and so resists separating accidently more than the Apico Type that is connected purely by magnetic attraction , this means that if you are using an elastic tether cord that when you fall off the resistance to seperate in the Leonelli design means that it pings off with greater force than the Apico kill switch and so will sting more if it hits you in the face, I have had no problems with Leonelli magnets falling out of the red plastic cap but have had quite a few come out of the Apico red cap, I now use a pick to pull them out when new and use the rubberised type shock resistant Loctite super glue to refix them and had no problems so far. My prefered type is the Apico one as it clips on easier and pings off with less force during a quick get off but with the glue fix to the magnet obviously. My advice is throw away the metal laceration handlebar clip and use a cable tie to strap it to the bar then hide it along side the clutch master cylinder like the pro riders do , find a closeup image of one of their setups , the way most people fix them on their bikes they must like Accident and Emergency waits. The magnets on the Apico and the Leonelli kill buttons have different polarities as already mentioned so if you need a spare magnet and lanyard you have to use the same brand you cannot mix and match. Edited December 8, 2023 by Tr1AL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemur Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 5 hours ago, obd said: Brand new to trials. I have a 04 Scorpa 125 which has a stop button. Just wondering if there is much difference between the Apico & more expensive Leonelli ones used on modern Scorpas before I buy one? I thought they were all expensive 😐 Stay away from the Hall effect lanyard switch ones, go with a simple magnet one like Jitsie sells, they fail less often. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl ekblom Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 7 hours ago, obd said: Brand new to trials. I have a 04 Scorpa 125 which has a stop button. Just wondering if there is much difference between the Apico & more expensive Leonelli ones used on modern Scorpas before I buy one? WARNING! Be aware they have different polarities and are not interchangable. You can not mix them without big problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_steer Posted December 8, 2023 Report Share Posted December 8, 2023 In my opinion, I would use the Leonelli one, I used another make and I had, on several occasions, the bike still running when the lanyard had pulled the magnet off !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F5Dave Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 The elastic can be replaced with boot lace to stop. . . Well, use your imagination I was given a small magnet to stick on the frame of my GG . Makes an excellent back up. A friend lost a lanyard from my spare bike. We never found it. Must try find a place to stick it on my TRS, but steel is hard to find on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 You might ask yourself why trials is the only sport that uses magnets. Total piece of crap. Plenty other methods available to have a dead mans switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevec Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 Then there's these: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1228477081/ultimate-tether?click_key=2595cfe7b9f3f4deeb43685556b3a86c0c44ad1d%3A1228477081&click_sum=f929a5f8&ref=shop_home_feat_3 . The magnet in the bead works keeps it from dangling around when off the bike. He also offers these caps: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1195989353/logoed-kill-switch-cap?click_key=5e2539f92b3190e4f857cf10f7c0589d30891fc3%3A1195989353&click_sum=b3be6e7a&ref=shop_home_feat_1 . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevec Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 8 hours ago, F5Dave said: Must try find a place to stick it on my TRS, but steel is hard to find on it. This works for me: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapezeartist Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 On 12/10/2023 at 1:08 AM, lineaway said: You might ask yourself why trials is the only sport that uses magnets. Total piece of crap. Plenty other methods available to have a dead mans switch. Suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) Teather switches are all over ebay, amazon. The better ones are on racing sites. I use one that I bought for this purpose in 1996, but never opened the package till 2016. Its a ATV racing one made in Sweden. Our national rules have been revised as its has to be a teather that kills the motor. Nothing about being a magnet or being strapped to the wrist. I prefer it attached to my pants buckle. No stupid 5's this way. I have seen the magnet fly off just by a hard hit. That would be reason enogh other motorsports never adopted the magnet. Dangerous as crap at speed. Edited December 11, 2023 by lineaway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggy666 Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 Spare magnets available on Ebay, neodymium 10mmx2mm £4.39 for ten, suitable for both makes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan williams Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 10:26 PM, stevec said: Then there's these: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1228477081/ultimate-tether?click_key=2595cfe7b9f3f4deeb43685556b3a86c0c44ad1d%3A1228477081&click_sum=f929a5f8&ref=shop_home_feat_3 . The magnet in the bead works keeps it from dangling around when off the bike. He also offers these caps: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1195989353/logoed-kill-switch-cap?click_key=5e2539f92b3190e4f857cf10f7c0589d30891fc3%3A1195989353&click_sum=b3be6e7a&ref=shop_home_feat_1 . My evil nemesis Dave makes these. The lanyards are really good. Bright colors so you can find them and non-elastic so they don’t launch or hit you in various sensitive body parts when they come off the bike. Dave makes a lot of custom bits like number plates, choke lever extenders and kickstand feet. NOTE: Dave isn’t really evil it’s just that I can’t beat the guy. Even though I’m on a ‘20 EVO Factory and he’s on an ancient TY175. 😃 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapezeartist Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 Getting back to the original question, I've never had a problem with a magnetic kill switch so I would not differentiate between Apico and Leonelli. I use the switch to disable my motor every time I stop, so IF the magnet ever came out it would be more likely to be when I am stopping rather than falling off. I wouldn't use the curly lead type sold for outboards as they are too stretchy and probably won't cut the motor unless you totally dismount. My only issue with kill switches is the strap itself. Mine frayed for some reason and broke so it currently has a knot tied in it. Eventually I'll get round to replacing it. I really liked the link to Etsy but the postage costs more than the item so that's out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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