ChrisCH Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 17 minutes ago, konrad said: Seeing as how EM buys a standard charger out of China, their logic is severely flawed. Oh, and just to be clear, I'm shocked that it could cost only $12k USD. I had been anticipating something like $16k (not saying I think it's worth that, however). It is £9,300 in GBP which is less than the Escape. A new KTM EXC 250 Six Day is £10,550. If I sell my TRS and my Honda CRF I could afford it. (Or the wife's Ducati....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konrad Posted April 4 Author Report Share Posted April 4 So 9,300 GBP equals 11,720 USD today according to OANDA's currency converter. I am stunned. I thought the 2023 Comp was like 12k GBP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisCH Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 I think the prices have gone down a little. The cost issue was not helping develop a big market for the electric bikes versus the ICE competition. I am still keen to see what the other brands come out with. Both GasGas and Yamaha have stuff in the pipeline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerpet Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 10 hours ago, konrad said: When I follow that link from the US, it says, "$11,980.00 Tax included. Shipping calculated at checkout." Yes, dollars. I realize your price includes VAT, whereas mine would not. But that can't possibly be right. I get $18,158. Presumably AU$ for me. 1.5 times the cost of an ICE bike & still need to add in shipping & local taxes. I see a very niche market for this bike unless it is actually better performing than current ICE bikes! I'll be interested to see the final AU distributor's pricing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisCH Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 By a strange coincidence we bumped into a friend last night at the (mountain)bike shop. Her son is a good trials rider and is at Inch Perfect this weekend to try the new Factor-E. She thinks they (Inch) might let him have a deal on a bike to showcase it. I have asked for a full report so will post up if we get to know anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisCH Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 Test ride if you are in the north of England. https://experience.inchperfecttrials.co.uk/em-festival-7th-july/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisCH Posted July 3 Report Share Posted July 3 US Dollar prices for the States on their W3 now: https://www.electricmotion-usa.com/2025-models Plus the spec in Imperial measures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerpet Posted July 3 Report Share Posted July 3 11 hours ago, ChrisCH said: US Dollar prices for the States on their W3 now: https://www.electricmotion-usa.com/2025-models Plus the spec in Imperial measures. To me the most interesting sentence in there is, New software integrating engine speed drop management That's exactly where I've been trying to go, & is the electronic equivalent of a flywheel. I wonder if they've implemented it as simply "speed drop" or if it's bidirectional (& asymmetric). If it's uni-directional then I predict they'll shortly introduce a bidirectional version. I don't believe we're close to being able to completely replace the flywheel, but this is a really big step forward. In my view it's impossible to build a really good electric trials without direct control of RPM rate of change, up & down. A flywheel does that for ICE bikes, a combination of flywheel & electronics is going to be the optimal solution for e-trials, at least for a while yet and I'm inclined to think possibly long term too. Now I'm starting to get interested in EM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisCH Posted Thursday at 10:39 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:39 AM Looks like the new motor/battery on the other bikes is the plan. The latest offering here on the MY2025 epure race looks like the same motor but no gears. Oddly this bike is not on the manufacturer's website. https://inchperfecttrials.co.uk/products/2025-em-epure-race-2-5kwh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapezeartist Posted Thursday at 05:53 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:53 PM 7 hours ago, ChrisCH said: Looks like the new motor/battery on the other bikes is the plan. The latest offering here on the MY2025 epure race looks like the same motor but no gears. Oddly this bike is not on the manufacturer's website. https://inchperfecttrials.co.uk/products/2025-em-epure-race-2-5kwh It would be reasonable to assume that the new motor and battery offer advantages regardless of the gearbox (weight, cost, bulk) so it would be crazy not to use them on the Race too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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