ham2 Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Hi GasGas people can you help, A mate of mine has just bought a 50cc Gasser 05 model for his young 'un. He has been told by an unreliable source that he can convert the clutch action from semi-auto to some sort of manual arrangement just by adding/removing a clutch plate??!! I know it's a bit vague but does anyone have any experience of this..all replies welcome. Cheers ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markymark Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 When we did the nationals in 2002 I Think Joe Deakin had a manual clutch conversion on his which was manufactured by his dad Paul who has an engineering firm. I dont know contact details but they are at all the B nationals and come from the Birmingham area. Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyp884 Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 I have ordered a couple of parts from GasGas to convert my sons GG50 to a full manual clutch. MIT 50032064 2mm Steel Clutch Disc MIT 50032052 1.5mm Steel Clutch Disc While I have not converted the clutch yet, seems like it will work fine. I'll let you guys know next week. By adding one or both of these plates to the clutch pack you will basically take out the slack needed for the steel balls to "ramp up" and engauge the auto clutch. (I'm sure that made no sense at all!) And one of the BEST things you can do to the GG50 would be to fit a rear sprocket with 4 to 6 teeth larger than stock! MAJOR improvement! In the USA, you can order a larger rear sprocket from Sprocket Specialists. Tony Powers Charlotte, NC USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyp884 Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Hey guys, It worked pretty well. Now I've got to flush out the old contaminated fluid from the hydraulic clutch system, so that the clutch will dissengauge fully. Tony Powers Charlotte, NC USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham2 Posted March 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Thanks for the replies fellas.. I'll pass the information on to the relevant department and I'll keep you posted. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p@ul250 Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 I have ordered a couple of parts from GasGas to convert my sons GG50 to a full manual clutch. MIT 50032064 2mm Steel Clutch Disc MIT 50032052 1.5mm Steel Clutch Disc While I have not converted the clutch yet, seems like it will work fine. I'll let you guys know next week. By adding one or both of these plates to the clutch pack you will basically take out the slack needed for the steel balls to "ramp up" and engauge the auto clutch. (I'm sure that made no sense at all!) Hi Tonyp884 Ive also ordered the parts you have and would like to Know, do you remove the balls from the clutch pack when you add the disc/discs? reggards p@ul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyp884 Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Paul, I did not remove the balls. I think it will depend more upon the thickness overall of your clutch pack as a whole. I've not worked on the GG50 in about 2 months due to surgery and we are moving. Currently, the clutch is fully engauged unless you use the clutch lever. However, I do have a little drag due to the clutch not totally dis-engauging. I've got to work on that a little. Tony P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p@ul250 Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Tony thanks for the quick responce. I`ve now had the clutch apart and fitted one extra plate, just not had time to try it out yet! I`ll let you know how it go`s. I hope the seurgery went well and you`r feet up agen soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyp884 Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Paul, You REALLY need to put a 4 to 6 tooth larger rear sprocket on that GG50! The difference is incredible! My 10 year old rides his GG50 in the adult Novice class in out local club. Every event, people comment about that little 50 ! Tony P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p@ul250 Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 (edited) Hi Tony Yes have done ,one of the first things i did with the bike when my son started rideing two years ago was stick a 60 tooth sprocket from tallon on. I've also carred out the air box lid mods i found in your other post/steam on carb flooding and can recomend them. Has eny one out there found a source in the UK for the VEE-RUBBER or HUTCHINS 2ply tyres that tony recomended elswear? regards Paul Edited June 16, 2006 by P@ul250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbnuts Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 (edited) Paul could you tell me where you got the Tallon sprocket from (was it direct from Tallon) and also whether it is a stock sprocket? cheers Karl Edited June 19, 2006 by numbnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p@ul250 Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Hi Karl Yes I got the sprocket direct from Talon, Thay had them in stock when i got mine, but if not thay mke them in a day or two! As far as i remember it was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbnuts Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Hi Karl Yes I got the sprocket direct from Talon, Thay had them in stock when i got mine, but if not thay mke them in a day or two! As far as i remember it was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p@ul250 Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Hi Karl The talon ref No isTR370-60T-415. Talons phone No is 01935 471508. I also had to replace the spocket gard (the one under the swinging arm) i fitted a SHARKFIN from <mention of this company is not permitted on Trials Central> (<mention of this company is not permitted on Trials Central>) at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbnuts Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 cheers for that Paul, will give it a go. Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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