ChrisCH Posted September 13 Report Share Posted September 13 Looks like another electric in the line up. https://global.honda/en/newsroom/news/2024/2240913eng.html?from=motorcycle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemur Posted September 13 Report Share Posted September 13 Holy that looks expensive, I hope I can own one 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konrad Posted September 13 Report Share Posted September 13 I downloaded a large version of the JPG. You can clearly see a gear-change lever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelpugh Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 17 hours ago, konrad said: I downloaded a large version of the JPG. You can clearly see a gear-change lever! We’ve been discussing it on another forum. And yes the first thing I pointed out is that it has a Clutch and a Gear lever. I think it looks fantastic, but as we have all said, boy is it expensive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelpugh Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 25 minutes ago, Nigelpugh said: We’ve been discussing it on another forum. And yes the first thing I pointed out is that it has a Clutch and a Gear lever. I think it looks fantastic, but as we have all said, boy is it expensive! Here’s the images I got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelpugh Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 Also did anyone else spot this subtle brand change ? Honda RTL Trials bike It looks like last year some time in the 2023 model year of bikes, Honda branded three of its Trials bikes as RTL and not Montesa. Did anyone else notice this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelpugh Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 The other news is that the Honda RTL trials bike shares its engine with the Honda Electric CRF motorcross bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelpugh Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 17 minutes ago, Nigelpugh said: The other news is that the Honda RTL trials bike shares its engine with the Honda Electric CRF motorcross bike. Although I am not so sure, as both motors look very different in the images above. Also the Honda CRF electric motocross bike is liquid cooled, I can’t see a radiator on the images of the Honda RTL electric trials bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelpugh Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 34 minutes ago, Nigelpugh said: Also did anyone else spot this subtle brand change ? Honda RTL Trials bike It looks like last year some time in the 2023 model year of bikes, Honda branded three of its Trials bikes as RTL and not Montesa. Did anyone else notice this? Also if you do some digging the Honda RTL ( engine ICE not electric motor version ) has some nice subtle differences from the Montesa models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micm Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 I don't think there will a be Repsol Oil Company version! and er, it looks a bit chunky to me, so hope it's not RTL 4T weight of 74 KG like the EM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelpugh Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 45 minutes ago, micm said: I don't think there will a be Repsol Oil Company version! and er, it looks a bit chunky to me, so hope it's not RTL 4T weight of 74 KG like the EM. Yep I think that ship has sailed when they announced the end of that partnership! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konrad Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 The trials bike looks heavy. Although I am heartened to see a gear-change lever. I feel having a gearbox is the way forward for electric trials bikes. I have mixed feelings about the conventional clutch. I liked it on my 4RT as it was zero-maintenance and had a fine feel. But a small diaphragm clutch is much lighter. To me, the motocross bike looks better suited to its intended purpose. And, like the Stark Varg, the MX bike has no gearbox. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sectionone Posted October 13 Report Share Posted October 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapezeartist Posted October 14 Report Share Posted October 14 The MX bike has no gearbox, but the trials bike has. Putting a gearbox on an electric trials bike has a rationale that is still lost on me. The MX motor is liquid cooled and the trials bike isn't. Now that makes more sense as the MX motor will have to work far harder. Presumably the batteries are different too, due to their very different service conditions. So not a lot in common, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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