Ossa back?

[ric h]

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[scorpaian]

That would be mega, if it happens!

[ChrisCH]

I would imagine the brand name is still for sale.  The two guys who set this company up might enter the electric market but it would be odd to try to bring another ICE bike into the market right now.  Sadly these small companies like OSSA cannot really survive in the modern world and pretty much all end up as a part of some large group.  I would think Gasgas (who are part of PIERER Mobility AG and have KTM and Husky and other brands) probably has the intellectual property of the old OSSA engines.

[lotus54]

Recently I heard they are moving along well with electric motorcycle. I have not heard about any petrol ones-either yes or no.

My understand is OSSA was never merged with GasGas. They just had an agreement for joint manufacturing/distribution. When GasGas went under, OSSA was still ‘alive’ but of course didn’t have a place to build bikes or ship anything. I’m sure they didn’t have money, the reason for that joint venture in the first place.  

[ERW]

I have a hunch that the electric trials bike market will soon be flooded with various makes and models. I hear that Yamaha has invested in EM to boost production. I think to bring an electric bike to market could be a tough thing for OSSA. I think they would be better off going the retro route and bring back copies of the old models, imagine a MAR with a modern clutch or a Phantom with a modern exhaust pipe. Capitalize on their past. No one can do that but OSSA.

[ChrisCH]

The problem for OSSA or any other company in the same situation is whether or not they have the machine tools available to make the vehicle.  An up to date OSSA with new improved parts is attractive but the investment needed just to make an engine is significant.  If you made one it wouldn't sell much outside of the few enthusiasts that are willing to pay more than a modern bike just for nostalgia.

Is the brand name worth anything?  Hard to say.  SAIC bought MG cars (and LDV vans) - possibly to make the "Chinese" element less obvious.  The vans have dropped the LDV and are now branded SAIC.  On the bike front Chinese brands are now becoming desirable and CF Moto are doing really well in the GP - no cheap rubbish jokes anymore, much as Japanese bikes are respected now but were "cheap junk" in the 1970s.

Maybe Tenaci Wong will buy the OSSA brand name?  Could work for them.  In my view there is room for another electric bike at the correct price.  They already have a good frame and cycle parts.  China is the go-to place for electric vehicle technology.  Sadly about to be hit by some big tarifs as the European and US car giants throw a temper tantrum.

[osista]

www.ossamotor.com

https://todotrial.com/ossa-retornara-por-segunda-vez-en-2025/

[lotus54]

OSSA has a quite modern bike- the gearbox re-design for servicing already done. Just a few things and would be competitive again. 

[larro]

Well that last statement    road, scooter and enduro        TRIALS ????????????  Where they had most of the innovation

[lotus54]

Yes, Trials was the only innovation they had to production for modern OSSA. They made one non-operational prototype enduro (for sale now) but never got even a running prototype. To bad, it had interesting ideas. 

[larro]

So are they just going to omit trails totally. I don't think i would trust the company not to fail again too much history and you just cant keep opening and closing and then customers are left with a product that has no support  aka the TRI range. I wonder if this has been mentioned or even thought about in these so called meetings with so called management.

[konrad]

Just stumbled across this: https://int.nonstopbikes.com/ossa-tr12-b1c8/  It a re-badged Mecatecno electric child's trials bike.  The also make a smaller, cheaper TR8.

[ERW]

Not sure how I feel about that children's trials bike. I'm glad to see the OSSA brand back but that effort is kind of lame in a lot of ways. Vintage trials is coming on strong, I hear in Europe the vintage events are getting bigger turnouts than regular events. I'll say it again: Bring back the MAR with a plastic gas tank and a better clutch. BOOM! DONE!

[Tr1AL]

  On 11/21/2024 at 8:44 PM, larro said:

Well that last statement    road, scooter and enduro        TRIALS ????????????  Where they had most of the innovation

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They may have thought after their last efforts what would be the point in producing a trials bike in an already saturated and established market unless the company were prepared to pay for a top three Rider to compete in the World Championship , some serious cost to cover there obviously. As an example Tarres made the Jotagas with one of the two people who started the GasGas brand but there was no financial support available to fund a team to compete in the WTC with say Raga as their rider and as a result no real interest was generated for the brand especially after Tarres departed because he could not get interest to take the bike to the WTC and help market the machine  , as a comparison look what happened with the other bike Tarres went off and built when he got the financial backing he needed. Its not because the TRS is a much better bike than the JotaGas as both are basically a GasGas Pro but made to look different  Theres a picture out there somewhere on the net of Tarres in his house with a actual GasGas Pro using car designers modelling clay and bits of cardboard etc  to sculpt the JotaGas Proto type over the top of it  Both the JotaGas and TRS  motors are so clearly derived from the Pro motor when you take them apart that they both are just basically GG pros with a few tweeks wearing different clothes. but one flew and the other disappeared into the ether basically down to serious marketing vs not much marketing. 

Edited March 10 by Tr1AL

[Tr1AL]

Or should I say One had a top 3 rider on board at the WTC and the other went there as an after thought with a fairly good rider but too late to make a difference.

Edited March 10 by Tr1AL