austini Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Hi chaps, I will be taking delivery of a new 175f in a couple of weeks having traded mt 04 sy250, the reason for this move is I am having lots of problems with the tendons in the elbows etc: (just an age thing) and one of the main agitators is continued clutch/brake action, especially the last few laps of a long trial. To cut a long story short, in theory a 4st shouldn't need so much work, question is how many of you have made the change from Sy to 4st and what is the general concensus??? I still love my SY and would rate it as the best all round trials iron for nthe average joe. What are the current recommended mods, unfortunatly my 175 will be the only one in West Aus and I will have nothing to compare it with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgshannon Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 I had three SY250's in a row, and then switched to the SY175F for last year. You will find that your theory CAN hold true, once you convince your brain that it is true! Learning that you do not have to work the clutch nearly as much on the 4-stroke is a hard lesson to learn. Old habits die hard. While practicing, just leave that clutch finger on the grip, and off the clutch. You will be amazed at how you can just RIDE the bike through the section, using throttle. The engine size being small helps with this a lot, as well. There is torque, but not excessive power that causes the wheel to spin on off cambers, etc. Less use of the front brake is not so noticable, but with the engine decompression (if you learn to leave the clutch alone!) does allow you to make thos quick transitions to a downhill run, without having to get on the front brake so quickly, or so hard. Bottom line, it depends on how well you adapt your riding style to the 4-stroke and stop trying to ride it like a 2-stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austini Posted August 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 First trial today, I think I must be still riding it like a 2ST because I rode crap, the bike was fine although she kept on flooding!!!! Handling wise was very similar to the SY but the 175 does turn tighter, I managed to snap the choke lever off but luckely didn't break the master cylinder. Oh well theres still the next trial!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austini Posted August 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 A couple of weeks practice, a slow action throttle, and a bedded in engine and I can happily report that i'm riding better than on my old SY. I probably still use the clutch a little more than I should but only when i'm really near stalling speeds. I find that i'm more focussed whilst riding where on the 250 it was a case of point and shoot and 9 times out of 10 it would be OK!!!! Best mod to the bike would have to be the slow action throttle, biggest gripe is the rear mudguard, way too stiff. I found at the last trial most of the bigger bikes were having problems with a short steep muddy bank with a tight turning before hand, the 175 had no problems what so ever.......... Overal happy with the move.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 rode everything from beta to gas gas annd sherco . scorpa aint a bad bike i keep going back. sound machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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