sectionone Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 Has any company produced a budget trials bike that costs about a third of let's say a Gas Gas? I'll bet an Asian company could do it and there would be a strong market for it. If you look at the progress of mountain bikes, they now make very inexpensive bikes with full suspension and disc brakes that copy the designs of the more expensive brands. They could make a TY-250 air-cooled mono knock-off with steel rims and such and have interchangeable TY parts for replacements and upgrades. I've heard of a Korean MX bike that copies a Honda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpa3 Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 What sort of budjet do you think they could be produced for? Just look at some of the 1 to 2 year old bargains that can be had on modern trials bikes. They would have to be either very good or very cheap to be popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis_gasgas Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 What you saying we cheapskates or something ?? You would pay twice as much in the end for some japanese rubbish than what you would spend on a second hand modern bike !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpa3 Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 It'd be a nice idea though. A light weight Asian copy called a MonsherGasbetpa with all the cycle parts comparable to a modern European trials bike for about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy m Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 You seem to get what you pay for. These Chinese clones of Hondas are not going to be around in 5 let alone 10 years. On ebay you can buy a 125 trail bike for around 6 to 700 pound delivered to the door. Mini motos can be bought for 60 to 80 pounds. (A 2 wheeled 2 st powered motorcycle for an average days pay) As I say you get what you pay for. After a years use they look as if they have been through 10 years of constant winter. Although the engines are quite good in some 125s, but thats no use if the rest falls apart around you. Yes they could build them but they would be s***. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpa3 Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 You seem to get what you pay for. As I say you get what you pay for. After a years use they look as if they have been through 10 years of constant winter. I had a Sherco just like that in 2000! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Not sure exactly where the motor comes from in the Kondy, but the last pic I seen it looked like a nice beginner bike. But only 100cc! I understand the manufacturers are afraid to produce a 2T copy motor due to regulatory stuff, and there is really not a GOOD 4T to copy. Maybe the 200 Honda in a modern mono frame with decent brakes and suspension, and fuel injection! Yea, thats the ticket! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpa3 Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 That's the ticket. I'd love one of those for 1/3 the price of a new modern bike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordson major Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 (edited) Has any company produced a budget trials bike that costs about a third of let's say a Gas Gas? I'll bet an Asian company could do it and there would be a strong market for it. If you look at the progress of mountain bikes, they now make very inexpensive bikes with full suspension and disc brakes that copy the designs of the more expensive brands. They could make a TY-250 air-cooled mono knock-off with steel rims and such and have interchangeable TY parts for replacements and upgrades. I've heard of a Korean MX bike that copies a Honda. If you want a bike for a third the price of a Gas Gas, buy second hand.There are plenty of tidy bikes in full working order for around Edited August 10, 2006 by Beta120690 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordson major Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 I think the Scorpa TYS 125 at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattylad Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 A lot of the top end mountain bikes are made in the far east....... (not far from Japan), the issue is material quality and manufacturing quality control. If you combine this with slave labour costs the end product is going to be cheaper than using 1st world labour costs. If the number of units is sufficiently higher then it is cost effective to develop a new product moulds etc. Will this ever be the case with trials? The real secret is material quality. I have to say some spanish factories have produced their fair share of rubbish. Having said all that I have just purchase one of Halifax's finest an Orange 222! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jools Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 japanese rubbish You mean like the bomb proof Scorpa Yamaha or the technological Montesa Honda? Or am I misinterpreting what you said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Hmmm, I don't reckon he was referring to those two manufacturers in particular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickerlias Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 there was a company that did what you said a few years ago now 95/96 i think,called rtx,they made a brand new bike for about 1300,needless to say the company didnt last long,people would rather just buy a few year old bike for the same price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpa3 Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 there was a company that did what you said a few years ago now 95/96 i think,called rtx,they made a brand new bike for about 1300,needless to say the company didnt last long,people would rather just buy a few year old bike for the same price Odd thing was, they were actually ok to ride! Even, dare I say it.... competitive in the right event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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